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demonfox13 said:
slowmo said:
dsage01 said:
slowmo said:
Reach because it's the better game imo


lol nice explaining your opinion.


There is no point explaining why I think GT5 is inferior, the professional critics have more than done that job for me.  Lets just say I think any criticism raised against GT5 would incite more hassle than it's worth.  I've been quite open with my explanations about all the other votes I've done but I cannot be bothered arguing with some of this sites GT fans who are, for want of a better word, devout.  As Jay pointed out though, there are others who have posted nothing but a "because it's better" and lets not forget all those fans who couldn't be bothered to write at all but just anonymously voted and left the thread.

Ok here is my opinion and although I am by no means a pro reviewer, I will state it from the point of view of a gamer. Reach to me lacked the brilliance of CE and 3 which had left a sense of closure yet at the same time the possibility of the continuation of the series. On the bright side the engine was refined, the physics were pretty good, controls tight as usual, the community throughout the series has always been good but nothing was really a huge wow factor. However, the anticlimatic Kat situation (I don't want to spoil it) was well done as it wasn't outright cliche and felt a bit more like Saving Private Ryan. With that said, all the other stuff that happened felt cliche (including the Emile bit), and the last stand felt a bit...I dunno, empty (Kat thing was more emotional in a sense). The situation with Noble Team felt like the first Tom Cruise mission impossible movie (IMO) which upset me severely. The Covenant itself was scary, but the urgency and fear of them felt more prominent to me in CE. The space battle was a bit short but had its moments.

On GT5, it is absolutely the best racing sim and every site has stated it. It could have easily scored similar if not better than Reach and you out of all people despite your blindfold should know this. The expectations created by Sony and Polyphony were really stupid and harmed the reviews which did not review the game as professionals but more as fanboys and so-called gaming journalists. GT5 was not reviewed on its own merits. Unlike Reach which really could not disspoint. Hell ODST was like a 3 hour long rehash (not counting mp) with not even a polished engine yet still got a free ride. Explain to me how that is fair??? It is not. The expectations for GT5 were too high and was reviewed as such. GT5 kept very tight controls (especially if you have the wheel, be it Logitech or other), the tracks are diverse and different environments add beauty to everything. My only criticism is the stupid menu and the lack of polish on the non uber cars (I haven't played since the more recent patches which have fixed ALOT). However the meat what GT5 set out to do which was create as much a realistic experience on car handling as possible was an absolute success. If reviewers have named it the absolute best racing sim how come it even scored less than Forza??? That makes no sense and you know it, however because it is you I do not expect you to understand nor accept when you are wrong so we will agree to disagree.

You might as well make another thread with Seece and Insanity bashing any Sony exclusive and stating how everything M$ is superior when in some cases is not. You can also bring up all these reviewers blah blah blah, but in the end its opinions of people who express loyalties to M$. You know how broken the review system is so at the very least explain what you like about something and dislike about the other game and what is so great about your pick. Although you will not care, at the very least I will respect your opinion any day because if you are a true gamer, you will be able to point out the flaws in your choice. Heck I even have a little site I created for school where I have reviews on KZ3 and Trine from the perspective of a GAMER. Never forget that you are a gamer and not a f......y, I know it's in you, so hopefully you will add something to this discussion other than "boo hoo Reach is the superior game but people are picking the Sony product".

 

I rest my case your honour. 

 

GT5 is cold, boring and frankly emotionless to me.  I'll not even mention the huge disparity in graphics either.  All in all I found 3 racing franchises released this generation to be more entertaining. 

I'm a fan of Halo, I love the universe and the rich lore, Reach told a great story that people already knew the end for but still made it engaging and emotional.  If you didn't get the last stand bit at the end then that's more down to you as a person and not the game (most reviewers and friends I've spoken to loved that touch). 

I own a PS3, 360, Wii and a gaming PC so I couldn't care less about this imaginary war other than to state if some of the Sony fans were less arrogant and annoying I might spend more time getting to know the PSN community.  Why would I have loyalty to Microsoft, they don't pay me to have an opinion.

I happen to think the review system is fine as it's mirroring what a buyers opinion would be picking up the game.  There are many fans that picked up GT5 and were massively disappointed, how can you say to them the game is a 90+% game?  GT5 had too many flaws to deserve much higher scores.  At the end of the day it's a game, if it isn't as fun as something like Grid then it will be rated lower.  You rate for the mjority not a minority of hardcore sim fans.