osamanobama said:
1)going to war, eliminating threats to our national security. our government has the obligation to do that. also when have we ever tortured anybody. could point me to any proof that we have. as far as any citizen in America knows, we havent. 2)who says im for that? also that happened under Bush, hardly a conservative figure that matches the tea party beliefs, im not talking about establishment "conservatives" (who as far as i know havent come close to resembling anything close to a fascist regime when in power for those many years), im talking about new up and coming conservative movement, the one that is actually changing the swamp that is washington. tea party people. 3)what does that have to do with conservatives, yet alone tea party ones. usually, almost always, its liberal trying to regulate where, when, how often you can drink, smoke, and what food you can eat. 4)what does people breaking the law, and going to jail, have to do with conservatives forming a fascist regime |
1) If Bush hadn't shifted focus from dealing with the 9/11 terrorists (Afghan / Pakistan) who actually attacked our country to Iraq, you would have a point. When Obama came in, we shifted focus again. We have also had many wars in the past that had little to do with our national security. Look into the Phillipines.
Are you saying Gitmo and Guantanamo bay (things we wouldn't have allowed other nations to do) did not happen? I suppose FOX news doesn't like to portray any actions that the military does in a negative light ever.
2) The Tea Party as a basic platform isn't so bad. IT's too bad that most of the members aren't questioning things like the PATRIOT Act. Many of the members are not consistent with their basic ideas.
3) Ever heard of Blue Laws? When I lived in Colorado, we couldn't buy alcohol on Sunday due to being a Church day (that was the intent of the law).
4) Many people are in prison for victimless crimes - such as marijuana posession. If we put racial statistics in there (likelihood of blacks to be given time for the same crime while whites would be let off on probation), that's a whole another area to not get into.
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials
Conservatives: Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.