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Akvod said:
Holy shit has this topic gotten derailed.

What do you guys think of my worries:

1) You have stagnant job growth, which will lead to MORE unemployment, as more young people enter the workforce.
2) You have a large wealth gap, which is only going to increase with the above mentioned (college graduates who do get jobs, and who don't).
3) You have an absolutely toxic and radical political landscape (as the 22 pages in this thread show).

Young, unemployed college graduates, who are going to be pretty moderate in their views, are not going to buy into the radical left and right. In fact, they'll despise it. They also don't care about abstract things. They will be afraid, afraid of their own personal future, as well as their country's as they see an increasingly partisan government and media seem to fuck things up more and more.

What I meant by a "movement similar to fascism" is an reactionary movement against the polarized political landscape, led mostly by people from the middle class. A movement driven by fear, that speaks in extremely broad terms and rejects the left and right. A movement that is skeptical of democracy. A movement that seeks national unity, that isn't divided by extremism.

I initially thought of the tea party as being that fascist movement, but in retrospect, I don't think it is. The main supporters aren't from the middle class, and it really is just the Republican party rebranded, and more extreme.

The fascist movement I envision is one that starts in New England. One that will be composed mainly of the unemployed members of the middle class.


I think the movement you see in New England will probably be the origins of the poor people's army that will rise up to oppose the Fundamentalist Christian Religion / Conservative Movement as its power increases (of course a lot of that will also come from the South and Midwest as it did during The Depression with the likes of Dillinger et al) and it becomes ever more fascistic as a result and cuts most of the social programs that most people need in order to keep more and more power concentrated in the hands of the wealthy, the religious leaders, and those that make up the leaders of the white, patriarchical power structure.

The Right Wing is always the path to fascism as is the Fundamentalist Christian religion which always seeks to place everyone under the fascistic will of its God as you say Fundamentalist Christianity seeks national unity and since it aspires to be the norm (and it takes steps to ensure that it is see the witchburnings from the 11th Century in Europe right up to the ones in Salem, Massachusetts just prior to the founding of the US as a country; also most of its followers aren't educated enough to know not to believe in it, and it has a ready made army if it sees its ambitions coming within its grasp) it isn't divided by extremism.

Of course the scenario isn't guaranteed it's only guaranteed if the Right gains more and more power in the upcoming elections and continues their current practices.  They wanted to declare war on the Education System which would have led to a faster rise in Christian Fundamentalism (as Christian Fundamentalists are really the ones that want all of their kids raised in home school based religious curriculums far from the intrusions of the real world; and, due to the fact that for 4,000 years Egyptian / Judeao / Christian Fundamentalism has seen itself as a great system for raising up docile workers and very much supports a white patriarchal ruling elite, it's what the Right would want to replace the Education System with ) as the public education system would be done away with;  however,  they really didn't quite gain enough seats during the last election to really make much headway in the war on Education, and they're hoping to renew their efforts there after the 2012 elections.

Also, the workers army that will begin to oppose this fascistic Right Wing Regime won't begin to assert itself until or unless the Right cuts something that the poorer people really care about and that forces a number of them to become criminals to survive.  As seen in Minnesota, that's really not education.