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sapphi_snake said:
mrstickball said:

Given that you've never held a job, run a business, or hired anyone, I believe you don't know enough about the subject to make such an assertion.

Economic liberty to those that work, employ people, or run a business is just as valid as those that engage in personal liberties. Furthermore, heavily liberal ideologies also support redistribution of all workers' incomes in various fashions means that they are directly pre-empting your work with their own views of where your livelihood should go. Additionally, it means in some cases, you may or may not buy certain goods or services to which they deem are improper for society (such as fatty food taxes, wage and salary caps by economic sector, price controls). These things are just as egregious as the state deciding who you can marry, what you can say in a public domain, what you may smoke or drink, and the like.

I actually don't think they're on the same level. And if I have to choose, I'll choose the side that's defending what I care about more. Still, conservatives are hardly liberal even in economic matters. They're the chief opponents of things like legalizing drugs or prostitution, and unlike liberals who give somewhat compelling reasons for things they want to restrict/ban something, conservatives base their arguments on irrational things like religion (basically their dislike of personal freedoms extends in the economical sphere also).


Not really. Both sides have tons of irrationality to them.

 

"Drugs are bad because they are unhealthy!"

"Trans-fats are bad because they are unhealthy!"

 

"Prostitution is a moral outrage! You shouldn't be able to engage in such activity!"

"Hate speech is a moral outrage! You shouldn't be able to say such mean things!"

 

"We must ban pornography! It degrades women!"

"We must cap carbon! It hurts the environment!"

 

Both sides engage in illogical, baseless restrictions against freedom. To argue that liberals do it out of more compelling arguments is astounding. One uses junk science and the other uses religion, but they still offer baseless arguments to restrict freedom.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.