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sapphi_snake said:
badgenome said:
sapphi_snake said:
badgenome said:
sapphi_snake said:

Still, I don't really think you can accuse any dictator that has ever existed of being a "liberal" in any shape or form.

I agree. It's long past time that we stopped conflating leftism with liberalism when the two have so little in common.

Liberalism and conservatism are in opposition FTR.

In the modern parlance, sure, but not really, no. If you are a conservative (that is, one who adheres to traditional institutions) in a (classically) liberal country, you may well be a liberal as well as a conservative. Today's "liberals", on the other hand, are just leftists by another name, and there is little liberal about them.

Modern day conservatives, staying true to term "conservatism" oppose things like liberty and freedom. There's nothing liberal about them. And what's the problem with being a "leftist"? It's certainly better than being on the right.


Wrong.

Modern day conservatives want liberty and freedom - but primarily for market sectors, and not personal sectors. That is 'conservative' as most nations have had less regulation/economic controls in the past, thus they want to 'conserve' this. Likewise, most personal freedoms have been restricted in the past, thus want to 'conserve' it.

Likewise, modern day liberals want the opposite of this - market restrictions and personal freedoms.



Back from the dead, I'm afraid.