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kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
thismeintiel said:
kowenicki said:
NiKKoM said:
Is he saying MS moneyhatted NPD?


pretty much...

The way pachter and then source have reported this is a little lazy and probably wide of the mark. 

NPD couldnt afford to be seen to bowing to unreasonable outside influences - its business would be screwed overnight. 

Iits a non-story that people seem to want to run with to somehow explain why their console of choice got its arse kicked in NPD.

If Pachter is correct and MS has convinced NPD to include some shipment data to distributors, with some of those units making their way out of the US so they will never actually be sold in the US, then I think its a reletively big story.  It would mean MS are trying to inflate their numbers.  And there is no question that MS would have outsold the PS3 and Wii in the US, it's pretty much a given.  But if MS is doing this to make their own YOY seem better to investors, that's quite dishonest.

I repeat....  shipped number released soon to ratify any sell through numbers....   so why does this wild conspiracy theory matter in the end? 

I want to know if this is Pachter or Source, so I am going to find out.

How will this change the WW shipment numbers?  Does MS give out specific numbers for each country?  If this is true, it won't effect WW shipment numbers, it would only shift shipment numbers from South America to sales in the US.  And since no one truly tracks South America like NPD tracks the US, you won't see either a dip in numbers in South America or sold through numbers being counted twice.  And I await the Source's clarification.


My point is only the total worldwide figure matters, I couldnt really give a crap about regional variances.

and.. LOL... I wont be asking the source to clarify.  Horses mouth on this one.

technically, it should count as sales as long as the purchase was done in the US. I'm guessing, since people are mentioning that some of these units found their way into other countries, i'm guessing that this "distributor" isnt really a "distributor" but some people who do import/export business. They probably bought a large number of x360s and brought them somewhere else. as i mentioned, since they bught it in the US then it should count as sales.

the only issue i see is that it could potentially be counted twice when tracking sales.....or maybe not since more often than not, those who buy directly and ship it out else where arent legit or accredited distributors and most likely arent tracked.

so, yeah. i dont see the issue here.