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I called them "groundless" for a reason. You very easily estimate death rates in scenarios you proposed while despite how vague they're I don't see these estimations as obvious as you seem to imply.

Kasz216 said:

Also uh... the Nuclear Bombings didn't happen under FDR.

Nuclear bombs saving lives isn't a historiographical cliche, it's demonstraitibly the case... and even the half of the japanese government that wanted peace at the time... who priased the bombings because it allowed them to force the peace deal and save japanese lives.

Did I say that? O_o You've probably misunderstood me, I war referring to our conversation on FDR's New Deal.

Well, there're freaks and traitors in every nation. Pardon my French, but it doesn't mean shit.