What do you think about the California Secession idea?

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mrstickball said:

Pristine20 said:

mrstickball said:

Pristine20 said:
I dont think splitting is ever a good solution because it would only lead to more and more splits. How long before other states with similar demographics split as well? PA outside the Philadelphia region is republican while the area around Philly is highly democrat for an example...how long before we follow suit? In fact, how long before the south tries to secede again? The way I see it, it's better to have both competing parties in a state that absolute party domination...that way there are actual checks and balances.

I think the main problem, though, is that CA is in such a mess, the entire state of 30 million plus people is going to go down like a sinking ship. Their laws are an absolute mess, and no one has the willpower to fix anything whatsoever. Therefore, the question becomes: Does California and everyone go down the drain, or those that made and supported the current mess?

As HS has said, splitting along political divides may be a good thing. If you do such a thing, then you allow various ideologies to be fully vetted. Hyper-liberal areas and hyper-conservative regions can finally make policies as they see fit, and allow for more rapid prototyping of different governmental models. Not every state needs to split, but I think there are a lot of states like CA, Washington, Oregon, Texas, New York, and a few others that could potentially benefit from it, as their demographics are not similar in distribution.

instead of splitting perhaps people could just move wherever they think follows their ideology? This behavior is not uncommon and if you look hard enough, there are minority groups being ignored in every area in every state. chances are that there are pockets of liberals even in so-called "conservative CA" and they have no voice as well.

Oh, they are. Texas is booming while CA is becoming a death trap. The question is if anyone in CA survives the collapse. Thus the argument for scession.

In my state, Utah, we are booming as well.  One of the few relatively healthy economic states during this recession.  I live in the Southern part of the state where we've seen a massive influx of new residents, particularly from California where they are fleeing the state.