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snakenobi on 10 July 2011
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Sri Lumpa said:
snakenobi said:
Religion is based upon what some group of people think about GOD which is wrong as its based of life of the people who formed it and how they envision life and world

GOD which we are talking about is the higher power which nobody can explain not what religion talk about.

even scientist will believe there is some higher power as whatever they prove should have come from somewhere

Religion (most of them) do define god as a higher power that nobody can explain, i.e. an ineffable being.

As for your last sentence it is flat out wrong as you are claiming that most scientists buy the cosmological argument (that there must be a first cause and that first cause is what we call god) whereas most scientist believe the first cause to be the big bang (unless you want to call the big bang god but it doesn't make sense as it doesn't have a motive) as saying that the universe was created by god simply pushes the question to what created god.

Of course, proponents of the cosmological argument claim that god is somehow different in that it did not need to have a first cause, but without ever substantiating why. Current scientific understanding of the big bang also includes that not only was it the event where matter was created but also so were space and time. If that particular big bang theory is correct then the question "what was before the big bang" makes no sense for there was no time before the big bang and thus no before. Like one scientist said, it would be like asking what is north of the north pole.

If that theory is true then you would have a "prime mover", an "initial cause", but given that the big bang is not sentient then it cannot even remotely be called god.


yes religion does define GOD as that higher power but most people following it don't.even the people at top right now may or may not.the people who created it did but as i said the next generation doesn't carry on the same mindset,they imagine and live in a different world

as for the scientist argument,i did actually mean that scientist believe in big bang and not higher power.and they believe that big bang is explainable and hence thing of it as the correct but many actually stop at that and thing that is where it all started which i disagree with

yeah cosmological argument seems to prove it when it talks about time and space but if that is the truth then science fails.It would have to be another dimension which we cannot comprehend.