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Griffin on 07 July 2011
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brendude13 said:
Griffin said:

I don't care about the statistics you just threw at me, I don't care about how many soldiers were left, or what attacks they were planning.

The bottom line is, the Japanese were close to surrendering and you cannot justify the deaths of almost half a million people, simple as that.

Some people make me sick.

Wow, i guess you missed the part were the japanese refused to surrender a week before the bombs were used and were planning massive suicide attacks against a US invasion forces.  But i guess you being 15 and your clear lack of information on the subject  we cannot expect anything else. 

I also noticed your from the Uk, i guess the massive civilian losses caused by Uk bombs on german towns was also uncalled for and the Germans were just nice guys who deserved to rule your country and burn it to the ground...

Wow, you insult me because of my age and then like to pretend that you are the mature one?

You are telling me that if America tried to invade Japan, Japan would fight back? That is proposterous, we must immediately kill a quarter of a million people in one of the most excruciating ways possible.

Stop treating humans like statistics, I don't give a fuck how much the invasion would cost, or how many trained soldiers would die, I care about the mothers, fathers, children who died from burns, cancer, starvation, radiation poisoning, the people who died instantly were the lucky ones, they didn't have to suffer for days, weeks and months, with flesh hanging off their bodies and their eyes melted out of their sockets.

And I am fully aware about the bombing of Germany, and I don't recall saying that I supported it. For the most part, that bombing was STRATEGICAL, targetting factories and airbases etc. Although the allies focused on bombing populated cities near the end of the war, something I don't agree with, it isn't anywhere near on the same scale as the death, fear, destruction and suffering caused by the atom bombs.

It was no insult, its to do with your clear lack of knowledge on the subject.  Japan would have been completely destroyed if the bombs were not used.  The US would have continued their bombing and laying mines across all Japanese held ports and shipping regions.  The USSR would have continued their agression to mainland Japan where they would have raped and looted the country.  The Japanese would have fought to the last person, every man, woman and child would have fought the allied forces, before millions would take their lives over what they were told would happen to them.  Totals deaths could have gone as high as 20mil. 

And you talk about wanting to save lives, what about the 20million civilians the Japanese killed.  Japan commited some of the worst war crimes known to man. 

And the allied bombing over Japan and Germany was much worse then that of the atomic bombs.  The Atomic bombs saved more then 10 fold what normal bombing would have.