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hunter_alien said:
Kasz216 said:
hunter_alien said:
Kasz216 said:
hunter_alien said:
Allfreedom99 said:
hunter_alien said:
Few countries could use it in combat and get away with it ( USA, Russia, China, maybe an EU state). So dont be afraid, your childish nightmares of N-Korea or Iran using them is more improbable then a more ``civilized`` one using them Except if they are ran down, in which case I hope they do use it...

I love it when somebody reads a biased article and thinks that they know all that is to be known about its subject

If you are suggesting that I started this thread only from this one article then you have been mislead. This thread was created due to the knowledge that is known by countries possessing nuclear weapons, and how the tensions around the world do justify the possibilities of a horrific weapon like this being used. Don't think Im blindly posting based on one article. That was added just to support current events of what is going on today with nuclear development as ballistic weapons.

And the only way I could see a more "civilized" country using one is if some type of desperation, or crisis was set in place. And even then IMO its still far fetched they would actually use a weapon of that much devistation unless it was first used on them, or they were about to be annihilated.

I should have calrified: It wasnt intended as a direct attack to you or the topic, it was a reaction to all the "OMG N-Korea will drop da b0mb on us!!!!!11!eleven!!!" people. Lets face it most people who have an opinion in this thread only know about N-Korea because of Homefront.

As an example, a guy above us just posted something about how atomic bombs are 20x more powerfull now then they where durin WWII. How can somebody write a dumb thing like that AND get away with it? I have no idea.... at least read a wikipedia article or something before posting.

Eh, i'd say North Korea is the most likely source actually.  If Kim Jong Il fails and Kim Jong Un isn't assured power.

If he can't get his own way he might as well be remembered forever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rE0-ek6MZA


I dont know... IMO he values his life, and I doubt he would be ready to give it up so easily.

Also, N-Korea is Chinas primary ally as far as I know, so I dont know how easy it would be for any country to invade/destroy it. China is showing its military muscles more and more, and we would probably see the Korean peninsula occupied by China for "security" reasons, and most likely not by another foreign country.

Either ways, lets hope that this scenario never happens.

@allfreedom99: agreed on that. The majority of the usual posters are far more informed then anywhere I went before. Unfrotunatly I also visit other forums to, and often come away with a sour tongue


I agree... he values HIS life.  More or less just his however.  If the succession plans fail... why WOULDN'T a dying Kim Jong Il launch a nuke or two? 

Or if his regime crumbles and he's going to be executed anyway?

A crazy dictator's last grasp for historical relevence...  seems like the most likely option to me.

Most other leaders care too much about their own countrymen... and wouldn't face outside invasion anyway.

 

After that, there is always the worry of nukes getting lost in Pakistan and Iran when there governments are ultimately overthrown.  Which is the "real" real reason noone wants Iran to get nukes.  They're past due for revolution.

The power struggle between Khamenei and Ahmadinejad is getting troublesome on it's own.

 

Well I agree on most part tough I still doubt that something could happen with N-Korea. The country is way to tightly secured by the ,military for any real revolution could emerge. True, we had seen similar sittuations in the past before, but I doubt the broken population could do anything.

An upper powerstruggle, thats a different story, tough again I doubt that the powerheritage that he is planning wouldent come to fruition. It seems more and more likely that it will happen, its a matter of when and not if IMO.

 

Also, there is the question of how to deploy a nuclear weapon. Its not enough to have a bomb, you have to have  the technology to send it from point a to point b, the real reason why a country like this will never be able to become a real threat to the western hemysphere. Ltes be honest Pakistan has intercontinental capable missiles, but the technology used is so primitive that it would be easily observed and shot down.

And if its an old suitcase stunt, there will allways remain the question was it a military decision or a terrorist organization...


Oh i'm not worried about the Western Hemisphere.  If anything North Korea would hit Japan.