| Rath said: MrStickball, just because America has failed to implement these ideas well does not mean that the ideas themselves are failures. As I pointed out many of the countries that have higher quality of life, have high standards of education and high standards of healthcare do have wide social programs and very high taxes. It's not like communism which hasn't been implemented well anywhere. |
But can you actually demonstrate that they have a high standard of living because of these programs, or would it be fair to assume that the conditions that allow them to have a high standard of living also enabled them to implement these programs without the negative consequences that are typically associated with these programs?







