| sapphi_snake said: @DélioPT: They are universal because people do define themselves by right and wrongs. They're not universal, and I've already said why. Problem is that if they are created everytime then you can`t understand the past nor criticize, but you do, don`t you? You have to judge morality within the context of the culture that practices it. It's ridiculous to judge people form the past or from other cultures using the moral rules of your own culture. Knowing something doesn`t negate you doing it, because if it did the knowledge wouldn`t exist in the first place. God knowing what you will do negats the necessity of you having to do it. The purpose of life (according to Christianity) is to show god that you deserve salvation, however since god is all knowing, he already knows what you will do, and who will be saved and who won't, thus negatign the purpose Christians attribute to life. That's a contradiction. If God wasn`t interested in having power to decide then you wouldn`t have free will or the ability to think and feel. What God wants, and you can see that through Jesus' teachings is for you to understand and realize that your "best" is within God. How does this in any way infirm what I said? You said that people can find individuality with god, and I proved tha tyour beleifs are contradicting. This paragraph does nothing more than reaffirm what I said. "Individuality" and "conformism"/"sameness" are antonyms. |
You only showed how it changes from one place to another, not the fact that people live them.
"You have to judge morality within the context of the culture that practices it. It's ridiculous to judge people form the past or from other cultures using the moral rules of your own culture."
I`m pretty sure i read something talking about dark ages. Isn`t that past enough for it not to be judged?
It all comes down to your belief system and why such moral imperatives or used. You may not agree with other people but i don`t see how that`s a reason for not talking about what people all over the planet do.
Aren`t there high values like dignity, freedom? Because if you are making them local and not global, then why not go deeper and talk about people in particular? Being part of a culture does not mean everything.
What God knows is what you have done/what happened. That`s the part you keep overlooking and making it unimportant when it makes all the difference.
The last part of my comment was because of this: "In other words god isn't interested in people expressing their individuality, but rather in them caving in to conformity and "sameness". What room is there for individuality, when there already is a standard model that everyone has to adhere to in order for them to be "with god"?"
To which i answered: "If God wasn`t interested in you (corrected now) having power to decide then you wouldn`t have free will or the ability to think and feel. What God wants, and you can see that through Jesus' teachings is for you to understand and realize that your "best" is within God.
If you are created in His image, you and everyone are part of His nature: kind, good, forgiving... love. That`s why i said you find yourself in God."
