What do you think about the California Secession idea?

[HappySqurriel]

Pristine20 said:

HappySqurriel said:

Pristine20 said:
I dont think splitting is ever a good solution because it would only lead to more and more splits. How long before other states with similar demographics split as well? PA outside the Philadelphia region is republican while the area around Philly is highly democrat for an example...how long before we follow suit? In fact, how long before the south tries to secede again? The way I see it, it's better to have both competing parties in a state that absolute party domination...that way there are actual checks and balances.

This is the main reason many states need to split ...

Because one political ideology has a strong majority of the population in a region it means that the views of the minority are being completely ignored in both state and federal elections. If you split a completely uncompetitive state (like California) into multiple states that each are far more competitive the net result should be better governance for everyone in those newly competitive states.

Isn't that the case with pretty much any govt at any level though? Even in a local district, someone was against whoever got elected there. Where do we draw the line? Pretty much everyone disagrees on something but humans aren't self-sufficient and thus must co-operate and learn to agree to disagree. The Federal one could be solved rather easily by using the popular vote instead of the electoral college but a lot of people would still be disenfranchised. Can we split the country in half? Even then a lot of people would be disenfranchised at some level.

Amongst dems for example, there was always the huge divide between Clinton and Obama so even if  Democrats were the only party, there still won't be unity...same goes for the republicans. In order words, as long as a group of people live together and have a govt, there will always be different views on the best way to govern...at least we can all take comfort in believeing that we all want the best for our country but some don't even believe that xD

It's always convenient to blame opposing views when something goes wrong but we will never progress till we learn to share the blame.

What I'm saying is not related (necessarily) to political parties as much as it is to political ideologies ...

While one political party may be dominant in many states, rarely is this political divide representative of a much larger ideological divide; effectively, you have some differences on major local issues that define the differences between the parties, but (overall) their beliefs are fairly similar.

When you have an ideological divide, for example mainstream democratic-free market beliefs on one hand and near-communist beliefs on the other hand, it is difficult to have a functioning government for a large portion of your population; because it becomes a winner take all situation.