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then again i'll argue that mario kart is a core game or anything nintendo is core..... sorry I'm not picking at the Wii crowed what I'm saying is that ninty characters reached that status of legendary icons, chicks and a bunch of casual see them like they see hello kitty.... they just love it.....

so yeah ninty said that.... but there problem was to not have core games..... Zelda,Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros are not core anymore...... they've been accepted by the casual crowed more than a decade ago.....

Now about the price cut.... even if Sony cuts there price there is no way they can cut it lower than MS can...... especially Kinect included.....

to the one wondering about cost.... first the production line is not held by MS.... it's probably one or more CM doing the job.... they bill it at a fix cost.... when you take production cost to MS it is already including all the overhead of manufacturing.... now you were talking about marketing expenses.....those are suppose to be unimportant.... because if the campain worked like it is suppose to work the up sales of products is suppose to be covered by it.... if you know that it won't push it enough don't do it.... so yeah on kinect bundle I'm pretty sure they can cut the price by a 100 and even throw a couple games in there..... I wouldn't be surprise to see Kinect bundles around Xmas with 1 or 2 games for around 250 and 300 for the big box.... then again they can choose not to do a cut and just inflate the bundles.... with a 12 month gold a couple game and 2 wireless pads stuff like that.... there is many way to cut the price without cutting it.....

now I don't think they'll win the calendar year..... but I'm pretty confident they can pull out the fiscal one.... they do know how to push sales when they want to... it's MS we are talking about.... they are the one who make people "THINK THE SAME" lol :P