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dahuman on 28 June 2011
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steverhcp02 said:
dahuman said:
This kind of thread is meh now, I mean, lets have for an example: firearms, need I say anymore? Just because you have access to a gun, doesn't mean you'd go shoot the crap out of everybody, but if I did, it'd be my fault, not the gun maker nor would it be the fault of the guy who sold me a gun, and it sure as hell wouldn't be the fault of the guy who invented gun powder. After all, human evolution is based on tools, it all depends on what we do with them. The origin of the blame would be like, we humans shouldn't exist and should just all kill our-fucking-selves. Are these discussions really worthy at this point? He got a real job, good for him, the end.


The analogy is the same as every other. The difference is there are people who still do push for firearms control above and beyond what we have. There are people who genuinely view this issue (like myself) in a way that is morally driven. Just because you CAN do things doesn't mean you SHOULD.

And yet your analogy is STILL wrong. If a guy took a pistol and altered the handle on it for customization knowing that by doing the asthetic customized grip it would be possible to then alter the chamber to allow a fireing rate beyond the legal limit, but it all starts with the handle grip, If it were posted online how to alter the original guys grip to allow for automatic firing, I'd say the guy that altered the handle acted irresponsibly.

My analogy goes out the window if you TRULY believe the guy didnt know it would allow that to be possible, then i say the guy make it CLEAR that its not right, condemns the acts until they cease and works at fixing the issue.

I hate comparing things like this to serious topics like guns....in the end, as i said, just because you can doesn't mean you should. Just like anything, we chose or moral fights/values and they are our own. What some people refuse to accept, in this very thread, is some people love this industry enough to want it to be profitable and see companies and devs, and while those defending geohot could all very well feel the same way, they dont feel that allowing pirated games effects that. Just a different view, and thats okay. Ive acknowledged it, those who refuse to accept some of us find this kids actions as irresponsible just cant accept it.

Feigning ignorance is easy, but its also easy to spot from a mile away.

What I'm presenting has nothing to do with the legal limit of gun modification, simply, if you have a gun, you can do a lot of damage whether or not it's modded. You don't even have to get them legally, but where are you pointing that thing is the key factor as a civillian. If I did something fucked up, I would be responsible because it was my choice, playing the blame game is always dumb as hell.