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Joelcool7 said:

thranx said:

Joelcool7 said:

thranx said:

Kantor said:

thranx said:

on that same note sony should stop selling ps3's. without them supplying them to people, people would not be able to hack ps3 and then pirate games. look at sony enabling hackers and pirates, how dare they. Sony is hurting the industry with its enabling of piracy.

That's like saying it's the store founder's fault for founding the store, because if he hadn't, he wouldn't have been robbed.

You're also implying that Sony wanted this to happen, which is ridiculous.

I know it is. I completely agree its ridiculous. But its the same as blaming Geohot for it. Thats why I said it, to show just how ridiculous it is.

You read my metophore. Geo may not have done anything illegal himself. But he broke the store window (Security on PS3), he knew that by breaking the security that others would rob the store (Sony). He is so intelligent , how could anyone believe he didn't realize that by releasing his hack that others would use it for piracy?

I'm not saying GeoHotz is soully responsable or a criminal. But his actions lead to crimes being committed and he was obviously aware they would be. He broke into the store (PS3) and made it possible for theives to steal from that store (PS3).

What you said was radiculous. Kantor is absolutely right. Thats like saying its the stores fault for being robbed and as such nobody should make anything in the future or own any possesions because somebody might steal them. It makes no sense, how is it the retailers fault that some punk broke into their store and allowed hundreds to loot it?

By your logic we should be in the stone age, heck not even the stone age they still had wives and huts. Nobody should have anything to their name. Heck if a guy gets murdered its his fault for existing.

He never did anything to anyones property but his own. He did not steal anyhting so your analogy does not really make sense. There is no way to spin it, what he did was perfectly legal and perfectly fine and something that has been done since electronics have been around.

No thats not true, he provided the jail break hack info to everyone with a computer so that they could break Sony's security on their systems and run pirated software. So my metaphor stands. Had he only hacked his console that would be one thing but he hacked everyones consoles by releasing the hack and he brought down Sony's security system.

So yes he broke the window. Also he knew by providing everyone with this jail break that people would use it to pirate(Steal from the store)

Also I never said he stole anything, my metaphor was clear he took what the store owed him and had promised him. However in doing so he broke Sony's security allowing others to steal from Sony. He provided the hack and essentially broke Sony's security system.

There;s no way to spin it , any way you look at it Geo is not 100% innocent.

He disabled piracy as well as he could in his firmware. What do you expect him to do? If sony cant protect its sytems against hackers how is geohot supposed too? Have you read up on the specifics of this whole incident? The firmware he released specificaly did not allow piracy. He is anti piracy. All he did was tell others how to get homebrew going on their own ps3s. He did not hack the psn or any games or any one elses ps3.  He took nothing. He created something, you act as if he took something out of the ps3. He created a a program that adjust the firmware on the ps3. There is no store analogy just look at the facts as is. There is no moral dilema here. He midified something he owned that affected no one else. All the piracy and psn hacks were done by others people should focus on and complain about them. Not somebody who only did what was in his rights of woning that equiptment. Stop trying to spread the blame to him. If you go down that route than you must blame Sony and anyone who makes any tool that is remotely related to hacking, you can't just decide to only blame one of the tool makers can you? How is that fair? Best just to blame those with direct involvement. This is probably why sony settled, they realoised he did no wrong and they could find nothing wrong he did. I have yet to find any case where it is illegal or wrong to hack your own equiptment, I tried I really did. There just is no case out there.