Another form of proof that GameTrailers is not neutral

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ssj12 said:
actually I realized that RGB is a default setting if your TV supports it. Which actually proves that they dont use the correct TV as 70% of all HD-TVs now support RGB Full.

Ahahahahaha

You think they use a TV to get the video off the PS3? Everything is done by a capture card, so what sort of TV they have is meaningless.

ssj12 said: Super White is a bit hard to understand as there is no PC settings for it so I cant really explain it very well.Super White is basically a cleaner white color that has no extra color then whats needed for white to be created.

Absoloute white is 255 Red, 255 G and 255 B, so I don't see where you can come up with "clearer white color that has no extra color". This makes me think that you're one of those "non-techie or graphics guys", or atleat a person who thinks they understand what they're talking about when you really don't.

Really, you're explanation makes no sense. 

But I digress..

For starters Super White is a feature that is only in action on Bluray videos. It does not come into play at all with games or XMB - any difference you see is completely in your head.

As for explaining Super White, its pretty simple if you know what you're talking about. Basically its a different color space that puts white at 109% of NTSC instead of 100%. Now my understanding is that there are no Bluray films mastered with Super White, but it is something most camcorders do by default and is likely the same case for Bluray camcorders.

As for HDMI can only use. Thats actually somewhat BS. HDMI is needed to get the full effect. Basically component will enable maybe a color range of 10 - 245 but not the full thing. As for Super White it makes whites cleaner but not as clean as it could be

Component is analog, so it doesn't actually have that 10-245 range. Again, this makes me think that you have no idea what you're talking about and means that its kinda funny when you start to lecture other people about technical details.

But again I digress...

Full range RGB is not going to change anything in component, this is documented by Sony. Once again if you actually knew or understood what you're talking about then you would realize that Full RGB isn't needed over Component - only HDMI/DVI and VGA. 

 

I swear we went over this same bullshit argument just about a week ago, so here is a simple summary of what I said then; Full RGB is a feature meant to compensate for the different ways TVs and Computer Monitors handle color space. Most HDTVs can only accept limited, and the ones that can accept full are set to a limited mode by default (often called "TV mode"). Because of this most sets will see detrimental effects to the picture, even if it supports Full, unless the suer changes their TVs setting.

The main reason its there is to compensate for people who set Bluray to output YCbCr because when you have you're set properly calibrated for that form of output it makes RGB look washed out, which Full RGB solves.

If you think you're PS3 games are washed out or the color is dull then you can do one incredibly simple thing to remedy this; change the settings on you're TV. The PS3 default output is perfectly fine and most people don't properly calibrate their sets - and yet people think Full RGB is some magical cure all when enabling it blindly is flat out stupid.

Both consoles are disadvantaged by the lack of HDMI cable being used but if they could use HDMI cable forthere comparisons both consoles would have a graphical boost (though not necessarily as high for both) so while it is not a perfect comparison it is still better than nothing at all.

if they know that they cant capture the videos using HDMI then why release comparison vids at all? 

the only reason they would release half assed comparison videos is to incite fanboy wars, not inform the people.

 

And here we see a common mistake - people thinking HDMI is superior to Component.

While Digital does have its advantages Analog is by no means inferior, and often the two inputs will look identical on good, well calibrated hardware. There are many things that HDMI could've done to make it definitively superior to any analog input, but the specification was rushed to market so the content producers would have a secure connection for HD material.

the ps3 and Xbox are different though, since they can play the games optimized, unlike crysis and the pc.

hdmi cables cost less than 10 dollars, so most people can buy one.
some people still use SDTV's that shouldnt mean that games should be reviewed using SDTV's.
heck you cant even read the instructions in AC if your using an sdtv.

should that mean they should be penalized for it?

 

I laughed

Sure, HDMI cables cost $10, but a good HD set - one that can truly show what these systems are capable of - costs thousands. Vizio and the other budget brands are not an "optimized experience" since they produce and inferior quality picture. So the only option I see is for people to use Pioneer Kuros, a set that cost around $4000 in its cheapest incarnation, to get an optimized HD gaming experience. Hmm.... thats more expensive than a good gaming PC...