UPDATE Man Faces Minimum 1 Year in Prison for Bringing Manga to Canada On His Laptop

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Hapimeses said:

sapphi_snake said:

 Well, paedophilia is the sexaul attraction towards pre-pubescent children. So no, not all manga would be paedophile material. It's hard to draw a line but I'd say anything depicting children under the ages of 11-12 is sexuual situations is paedophile material.

Regarding your previous post (the long one), no civilized country protects child pornography under the guise of "freedom of speech". And freedom of speech should be limited, like any freedom (no child porn, no promotions of racism/misogynism/homophobia etc., no instignations towards violence, no libel), else you'l have anarchy.

So, you're taking a psychiatric view, not the standard view used in the media of equating paedophilia with child abuse, yes?

And, before I can answer to your point about using freedom of speech to defend 'child pornography', I'm unsure what you mean by that. What is child pornography in your view? Does it need to have a child involved? For example: is the aforementioned 'Lolita' child pornography? How about a historical novel set in a time where child abuse was not only lawful, but expected in certain circles? Would that be 'child porn' in your view?

Yes, I'm taking the psychiatric view. I don't really see why anyone would take the unqualified view of the media. Not all child abuse is caused by paedophiles, and as I said, child abuse is an act, paedophilia is a quality of the individual who is a paedophile.

Pornography is defined as the portrayal of explicit sexual subject matter, for the purpose of sexual excitement and erotic satisfaction (according to Wikipedia). add "ivolving children" after "explicit sexual subject matter", and you have child pornography. Lolita wouldn't fit this definition, as it was not written as jerk off material for paedos. Understanding the novel that way only shows a lack of skills necessary to analize literature. As for the historical novel, the purpose is to accurately recreate the respective period. Neglecting such elements would essentially be a rewriting of history, though it happens quite often with historical novels, especially those regarding the Ancient period. Sadly "historical" novels/films often just present current-day ideology in a past setting.

So my short answer would be: neither examples are child pornography (and I already gave a definition of what child pornography would be). If lolicon is material featuring children in sexual situations, and the purpose is to incite sexual responses and lead to erotic satisfaction, then it is child porn.