| sapphi_snake said: @DélioPT: But this "bodily harm" doesn`t apply since it came from God itself. The foreskin doesn't disappear through magic. It's removed by a human being. And if virgin sacrifices were a religious practice, they'd come "from God itself" too, so I assume they'd be OK and not harmful, no? The ideea is that in a secular society such arguments hold no water. About the virgin sacrifice, no i wouldn´t agree. Then you are a hypocrite. Respect doesn`t equal accept. I respect a lot of things, but that doesn`t mean i necessarily agree with them. Wait... are you saying you'd disagree with virgin sacrifices, BUT you would respect them if they werea religious practice? O_O Words cannot express the revulsion I feel right now. I was just comparing the situations where it would be done by choice of parents or sons. You're just beating around the bush. If a religious parents or parents live what they teach then everything will be forcing. But it will also be the case where a non religious parent or parents, who also live by what they teach, will also enforce something. Not enforcing a religion, a set of values, or whatever, can`t be done when you are raising a kid. You teach them something, it just changes from person to person. Some will find it ok to have this procedure, some won`t. You're using faulty analogies, as usual. You're comparing apples to oranges. There's no "teaching" involved in circumcision. It's the mutilation of a body. Parents aren't normall allowed to force such practices on their children. For example you can't cut your child's arm off, and circumcision is no different. I don`t think you read deeply into what i said. No you can`t reject everything, that would rejecting yourself. It`s not just a question of values. That doesn`t mean you are a clone, it means that it helped mold you. And that really is more important than this medical procedure. It`s important, but not as important as you put it. Society molds you as a whole. There's "modling" coming from every medium. And you can chose to embrace other values, and downright reject your parents belief. The ideea is that nothing is permanently and irreversably destroyes, as in the case of circumcision, which has nothing to do with "values", and is just a bodily mutilation, done for no good reason. I respect that even not agreeing with it, as i don`t think it`s important. Well I don't respect your opinion and, quite frankly, I'm disgusted by it. |
You can`t treat the "if" like it`s real.
Wait... are you saying you'd disagree with virgin sacrifices, BUT you would respect them if they werea religious practice? O_O Words cannot express the revulsion I feel right now.You didn`t understand my words. Saying that i respect one`s practices, be it religious or not, is one thing. Not taking into consideration why i respect it is jumping ahead of yourself. And that makes you not understand what respect means.
I respect your opinions as a free thinking person, doesn`t mean i will agree with you.
"You're using faulty analogies, as usual. You're comparing apples to oranges. There's no "teaching" involved in circumcision. It's the mutilation of a body. Parents aren't normall allowed to force such practices on their children. For example you can't cut your child's arm off, and circumcision is no different."
You are too attached to words and not look at the message i try to pass.
What i try to say is that parents have a big influence on their kids, physically and emotionally. Talking about this medical procedure as mutilation is taking it out of proportions, way out of proportions. People do it for medical reasons and others for religious reasons aswell. I respect that, you don`t.
People won`t always see eye to eye.
