Editorial: 3DS vs. PS Vita - Will History Repeat Itself?

[M.U.G.E.N]

Mr Khan said:

M.U.G.E.N said:

Mr Khan said:
Honestly the ball is more in Nintendo's court to determine whether they win or lose. Vita's there doing largely what the PSP itself was doing early on, which is a solid, albeit conservative strategy. The problem is Nintendo's trying to out-PSP the PSP/Vita with the 3DS, or at least that's how it seems at the moment.

If or when Nintendo gets serious about delivering NES/SNES/DS-type games, then you're going to see some action, but the point is that it's up to Nintendo to decide to do that, otherwise they're just going to have a red-ocean fight on their hands

wow I mean really people!? does it like hurt you physically or something to give some cred to sony? and for the record again I state I don't think psv will sell more than 3ds LT BUT if you think victory depends solely on the market leader effing up and not competition making the right, smart moves then you are being naive. in fact you are down right insulting ninty. They didn't win this gen of home consoles JUST because Sony F*&$#d up with ps3 launch.

 

and what do you mean by 'conservative' strategy? they have added power, priced extremely competatively, added all the features asked by fans, added EXTRA features that devs can use to create NEW gameplay mechancis. it's nothing but conservative, it's aggressive and sony wants to do well..and it shows.

I mean this is laughable the way some of you are downplaying this. >_> bu bu bu when thye get selious sony will be so sad... i mean really? sheesh

Conservative does not have to mean non-aggressive, just that they're selling consoles the same way they've always sold consoles, which, i noted, is not a bad strategy, there's just nothing particularly new at play here

Nintendo's failures are unique because they are always self-imposed. Make GameCube games, get GameCube sales. Make NES/DS/Wii games, get NES/DS/Wii sales. I'm not of the extreme opinion of some hereabouts that these expanded market games are the only games Nintendo should make, and that there is a value in trying to reach the core gamer, but ultimately if Nintendo wants to win, they alone have the tools to do it, and these core gamer strategies should be supplementary to their primary efforts (which is why i'm more optimistic about Wii U than the Malstromites, as it shows an expanded market mindset just as much as it does a core one, and is not letting their desire to cater to the industry undermine it too much)

Which is not to discount Sony's efforts either. Even if Nintendo's head had been in the game for the GameCube generation, they still would have lost to the PS2 because it was perfectly positioned to own the market, but in Vita's case we've seen the limitations of the PSP strategy, and Nintendo knows what they must do to surpass the bar that Sony has set for themselves

you can't be aggressive with your hw, sw and pricing and be 'conservative'. that just makes no sense.

so far sony have done better than ninty in all areas.

hw: much better value for the price, very aggressive pricing here

region lock vs non region lock

better AR

NEW gameplay mechanics something the ds thrived on. something the psp lacked.

not sure what you mean by we are seeing the limitations of the psp strategy with vita, would love to hear you expand on that. Sony have done much much better than the psp. Very dev friendly, easy connectivity between home console, much better online, new gameplay possibilities not available elsewhere, much better use of game format, lots of NEW IP's, almost no ports (can think of sf vs tekken, not much else), dual analogs which will help a lot in FPS?tps (something that crippled the psp games in those genre), complimenting and combining with other mobile platforms through PS Suit etc.

I think many of you are downplaying what sony have done here and trying to cover up how bad ninty has done with but wait the giant is sleeping I promise scenario. admit it, ninty messed up. sony have done well so far. I fully expect the 3ds to outsell the psv but if you or ninty think it's gonna be the same as last gen you are in for a rude awakening. it's not the same strategy as the psp, it's very different and so far it has been down right perfect!

time will tell in which way sony will manage to ef up, but so far they have outperformed ninty in every way. it really is simple as that. and don't discount sony, though I don't think they won't win and all, they have not shown all their cards yet. Coming year or two will be very interesting in the handheld market