Rainbird said:
selnor said:
Rainbird said:
selnor said:
Rainbird said: There's no reason not to use blu-ray honestly. Blu-ray discs aren't expensive to make, and using them for games would benefit everyone as it would bring the NextBox in line with the Wii U and PS3/4. On top of that you would be satisfying everyone who actually do buy blu-ray discs, and not making the PS4 more attractive (as Microsoft wants to rule your livingroom, they would want to shut Sony out as much as possible).
DVD have already proven a limiting factor this generation in some games, and with asset size only increasing for the next generation, DVD will become even more of a bottleneck. |
You realise Wii u isn't using bluray. It is cheaper for MS to use the HD DVD format for games or another Taylor made format larger in space then DVD using the same laser. Which is possible. It would mean more revenue for MS to. Not going to Sony. The only reason MS would use bluray would be for films. But it just isn't that big. I know only 1 person who owns blurays and only 5 films. 5 Years after its release.
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Wii U is using a disc format with 25 GB of space, so if Microsoft go with something smaller than blu-ray, the NextBox will be the lowest common denominator in terms of disc space next generation. And using HDDVD would be silly. You would have to build new factory lines for producing them (seeing as no one makes HDDVDs anymore), which would be expensive, and the mass market adaption of blu-ray means it will only continue to get cheaper. Using blu-ray for games would definitely be cheaper than HDDVD, and would give some nice advantages over DVD as well. Not to mention that the NextBox would be able to play blu-ray movies, which is very nice if you want an all in one media machine.
As for the bolded part, I don't see any useful evidence on your part. I can however present evidence that says blu-ray is seeing healthy growth with ever increasing popularity. And not only that, but blu-ray is significantly outgrowing network sales. I don't see why Microsoft wouldn't want to get on that boat...
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No it wouldn't be cheaper. The consumer would lose out. Sony would be paroyalties from MS ontop. the games would be more expensive. Nintendo opted to open new factories for a 1 of a kind disc for Wii u. I'm hoping MS will do the same. I don't fancy paying extra for my games because of bluray royalties.
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Let's get one thing straight. When using blu-ray, you pay royalties to the Blu-ray Disc Association, which consists of lots of different companies, each of which gets a part of the royalties that are payed to the BDA. Sony pays royalties to the BDA too, but it gets a small part of this back because it itself is part of the BDA. So Microsoft's royalties would be slightly more expensive than Sony's, but PS3 games cost the same as 360 games already. This royalty doesn't change anything.
And secondly, why in the world should Microsoft have a new factory line opened to produce their own discs when they can benefit from the increasing mass market production of blu-rays? Why spend money developing something new, when the stuff that's already here will more than get the job done?
Using blu-ray means Microsoft will save a bunch of R&D costs and Microsoft can offer a machine capable of playing blu-rays. It's not going to make your games any more expensive.
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First. If you are right then Nintendo just made the biggest error in the history of games. Not using bluray. Yet have a new type of disc the same size as bluray.
2Nd. Bluray has peaked. It will never mass market like DVDs. Even pcs in pc shops still have a limited number that include bluray. Not to mention the dwindling floor slace given to bluray films.
3Rd in my country it is not uncommon to find ps3 games 5 pound more expensive than 360. Say hello dirt 3. Some shops will match prices. But usually upping the 360 version. ( Thanks bluray ). Game doesn't do this though thank god.
Hddvd would be the best option. It costs very little to convert DVD lines for hddvd as Toshiba stated years back. And the tech already exists. I can see them doing this. As the film side of things is going DD very very quickly indeed. Last HD film figures says it all. And Zune marketplace is performing amazing in that field. Having no bluray on 360 and quality and quantity on Zune for HD stream or Download has helped push forward DD of HD films. You can now buy tvs with internet and HD film downloads service as software.