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CGI-Quality said:
daroamer said:
CGI-Quality said:
My opinion: Forza is a better modern racing game, but as a driving simulator, it has a long way to go before reaching GT levels.

Btw, I read that some think reviews should prove which is better. If that's the case, GTA IV should be considered better than almost any game on the market. Hint: reviews do not prove which is the better game. Forza will never have the expectations of GT and therefore will never be judged like GT.

Then what metric would you like to use to compare games?

My own experience. How exactly does Metacritic prove, indisputably, what game is better than another (especially when the individual reviews themselves prove nothing absolute)? Would you, then, agree that Uncharted is better than Halo or Gears of War? That GTA IV is better than Red Dead Redemption? That HEAVY RAIN is better than Alan Wake?

Is Little Big Planet better than Sonic Adventure?  Is Killzone 2 better than Brink?  You can find just as many cases where metacritic is clearly right.  The point is if you're going to discount all measurable metrics - "Sales don't equal quality! McDonalds!"  or "Reviews don't mean anything!  Anomoly!" then what is the point having a discussion?

Then it boils down to "I'm right because it's my opinion!" and "No I'M right because it's MY opinion!".