MGS4 on 360....maybe?

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windbane said:

You know, it's easy for you to ask for evidence that 2 million people bought a system for one game, but unless someone has done a poll stating such a thing, of course I can't prove that. Do you have any evidence for those statistics either? I'd be very curious to see some professional polls done on that topic. Until then, I'm just guessing, yes, but most people I've talked to or read on forums mentions they bought Xbox for Halo 1 or 2.

If you have evidence that 20 million of Xbox owners did not purchase it for either Halo 1 or Halo 2, I'd like to see it. That's 4 million less than have purchased it, so if you can't find 20 million that did not buy the console for Halo or Halo 2, then at least 2 million bought it for one or the other.

Same thing for the 360. Give me evidence that 8 million people did not buy a 360 knowing that they would purchase Halo 3 and would not have gotten it otherwise.

I'm glad we agree on everything else, though.

EDIT: And no, I am not suggesting MGS4 will sell as well as Halo 3, I'm defending that a game could be sought after enough to warrant 2 million people buying a system just for the game. Although, there is less than a million difference between Halo 1 and MGS1/2 (not combined). Just sayin...

 

Frankly, I have the luxury of backing a negative in this case. I'm not trying to show anything other than that you have no evidence. However, the simplest and most visible evidence are the graphs, right here, at VGCharts.com.

 

There is exactly 1 game in history that I can easily discern on the graphs available, and that is Blue Dragon. Look at this Xbox360 graph and tell me where Blue Dragon was launched in Japan:  

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=X360&reg1=Japan&cons2=X360&reg2=Japan&cons3=X360&reg3=Japan

 

That is what a single game selling a system looks like. Of course, because the system was so unpopular to begin with, it doesn't come close to reaching a 2 million consoles sold. However, please examine the PS2 graph:

http://www.vgchartz.com/hwcomps.php?cons1=PS2&reg1=All&cons2=PS2&reg2=All&cons3=PS2&reg3=All 

 

Show me one point, anywhere, that displays a single game's release having a visible impact. I see some tiny bumps, and a few major ones that correspond precisely with Christmas sales, but in general, these things to be a long term aggragate and not a sudden, significant change.  It's a slow, smooth line.

 

That's pretty much how every other console looks, too. If you can find any chart that looks like the Xbox360 Japanese one, I will give you a cookie.