Forza 4 vs GT5: Forza 4 raise the bar

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Michael-5 said:

ethomaz said:
I'm beginning to think that Gran Turismo 5 is the most discussed topic of vgchartz.

I will see the videos soon... after go back from one day trip .

Biggest PS3 exclusive, on a site largely composed of PS3 fans.

At OP: Forza 4 looks better, but how many cars will Forza 4 sport? Graphics also aren't everything. Forza 3's graphics looked almost on par with GT5's. The more focused cars in Forza 3 looked roughly as good as the prenium cars in GT5, except GT5 cars had a rear in car view. However in general GT5 prenium cars looked better then Forza 3 cars. Then again, only 20% of GT5 cars were prenium, the other 80% were sub Forza 2 level in graphics. Track detail was about the same, however Forza 3 doesn't have any city courses.

I expect Forza 4 to look better then GT5 graphically in almost every aspect because Forza 3 was ~ GT5 level of graphics (as stated, each has their own strengths), but that's not everything. Gameplay is most important, and GT5 feels like a better Sim. Weight distributions really feel like they make more of a difference in GT5 then Forza 3, especially when braking. GT5 also included NASCAR and Rally, but I don't care for that.

If Forza 4 can surrpass GT5 in terms of physics, and includes a rear in car view on all their cars, and maybe has special events or lecencing, or a used car shop like GT5 (buying a new 1970's car makes no sense, used car shops add thrills), then I will be very happy. I know GT5 is a longer game, especially if you're going for all gold, and all cars, but Forza 3 is still over 100 hours, and much less repetitive. I feel Forza is already better then GT5, but in order for everyone to see that it has to trump GT5 in every way possible.

Forza 4 doesn't need Rally, and NASCAR, it's a strict race track Sim, but in order for everyone to finally accept GT has been beat, it needs significantly better graphics, better physics, in car view and rear view on all cars, and some new features like special events. It can do this if Turn 10 tries.

I can't wait for the game, have they revealed anything about it yet? Car list, extra features? etc?

I agree with you on many things but let me say that:

Number of cars is not that important. Yes, it's nice having those hundreds of cars, but how many of them are actually useful?

Number of tracks racetracks. Definitely the weakest point of Forza. They need to add more racetracks and stop using reusing the same one with different lenghts. Just stop it. BTW in Forza 3 there are 3 city courses: New York with its awful false chicanes (I hate them!), Amalfi Coast and Rally di Positano. And honestly I prefer real racetracks than the urban ones.

Qualifying. Is it that hard to introduce this in Forza? Why do we always have to start being the 7 of 8?

Nascar, Rally, F1. They can be good, even fun extras, but I agree that they are not necessary.