Is the 360 in trouble?

[rocketpig]

Lord N said:

Like I said, that increase doesn't mean much. 3.5 million consoles isn't a big deal no matter how you slice it, whether the 360 is more expensive or not.

The fact remains that the 360 will end up at best a distant second(a distant fourth if you count handhelds), as did its predecessor, and what makes this even worse is that the 360 had a year headstart. The only console that it has a chance of outselling this gen is the poorly-performing PS3, so even if it were to accomplish this, it wouldn't be a testament to the 360 doing well as much as it would be a testament to the PS3 doing poorly.

A real example of expansion would be the Sega Genesis over the Master System, or the way the DS and PSP have expanded the handheld market(especially in Japan) with nearly 100 million sold between the two of them in three years.

The 360, on the other hand, will be in the same position as it was last generation(best-case scenario), may as well not even exist outside of N. America, and has only made money for developers while failing to make any for MS.

I see... We're arguing different points here. I'm arguing that the 360 is showing gains over the Xbox, though not enormous gains. Enough to keep in the console business, that's for sure. I fully expect the 360 to eclipse Xbox sales by at least 10m and unlike the Xbox, most of those sales will be the profitable kind.

As for the Wii, I completely agree and anyone would be foolish not to. It is completely dominant and will continue to be so for the rest of the generation. There's no stopping that freight train.

Whether the 360 is doing better or the PS3 is failing miserably is really a moot point in my eyes and MS probably feels the same way. Their true competitor in this market is Sony and no matter how they beat them, it's a victory for MS if they do. And right now, they have to be pretty pleased with how things are turning out.

No matter if Sony ends up passing them late in the generation, MS still has to feel this as a victory. They are bleeding Sony dry and finally turning a profit in the process (though we'll see if that keeps up over the long run). If by the end of the generation things are nearly tied up between the two consoles, who won? It isn't Sony, that's for sure.