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goforgold said:

ehhhhhhh fair enough, even though every one who plays GT knows it a sim and only a sim.

Never said it wasn't a good driving sim, GT5 is fantastic in that regard, but to me lacks many of the features which makes Forza 3 appeal to ALL lovers of cars rather than just providing a realistic driving experience.  GT is obviously the more established franchise, especially in Europe.

Having said that, Forza 4 looks it might surpass it in both graphics and maybe physics with their new tire physics.