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Kasz216 on 10 June 2011
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izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:

Well for one.  Penis amputation.

Seriously botched circumsiscions are between  1 and 4%.

VS the

1 in 100,000 percent chance of developing Penis Cancer if uncircumsized (actual number)... which generally only occurs at the very end of ones life.

Yeah.  I'd much rather take the 1-4% chance of having my junk ruined at birth... (well moreso than normal circumsicision does!) then the  .001% that i might get a horrible disease and lose  my penis much later.

Then, of course, the MUCH less pleasure during sex thing... which you know.... is kinda relevant.

And in general as long as you use proper hygenie your less likely to get scarring or an infection vs being uncircumsized.

I'd like a link for the botching statistic...to the best of my knowledge it is minimal.

As far as I know, that number is misleading, it includes both cut and uncut men. A better number to use would be 1 in ~45000 men. However, this number includes men of all ages, not just those prone to becoming infected with this cancer. If you just include men who are at risk, (and by risk I mean hovering around the age of 50) I believe the number rises to somewhere in the region of 1 in 1000-2000 (though, I would have to pull up the study).

Researching more on this topic has led me to contradictory views on the issue of pleasure...some people seem to experience more pleasure post circumcision than when the foreskin is intact.

And as for hygeine, that has to be initiated from day 1, when the foreskin is able to be retracted...ages 6-8. I don't know about you, but I defintely hated showering...5 minutes max. I don't think the average boy would put too much effort into cleaning in general, let alone around the penis and under the foreskin.


If you were right about the above... all that would show is that you have zero substantiation that it helps.

Outside which... Penis cancer I could only imagine would be like Prostate cancer.  AKA an inevitability no matter what you do if you live long enough.

Prostate cancer is a 1 in 11 chance.

 

I'll bring up the info again at a later date.  About to head to work.


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* A realistic complication figure is 2%-10%.
–Williams, N. Complications of Circumcision. British Journal of Surgery, vol. 80, October 1993, pp. 1231-1236.

Note that the United States is the only country to have male circumsisions without religious regions in any specific number... and even then the number is shrinking because Doctors widely just know better now.

 

The US doesn't have much lower rates of Penile cancer then the rest of the world... despite being the only country that does this on a normal basis.