Why renewable energy won't work.

[Kasz216]

Troll_Whisperer said:

Kasz216 said:

Troll_Whisperer said:

Kasz216 said:

Troll_Whisperer said:

 

There's no price for human life.

Even without those it's a positive balance.

Use common sense.

If it was a positive balance it wouldn't need subsidies... because the electircity would be cheaper...

and less people die in Nuclear related accidents and uranium mining then mining accidents related to Solar and Turbine power.

Wouldn't it be still be cheaper than fuel in the long run? Not initially of course.

About nuclear: one screw up in history is enough to fuck up really badly and that's enough for me. Japan was close.

Anyway, I don't think we'll agree here, and I have to go dinner. Let's leave the conversation here?

 

I have to disagree.  You seem to be just trying to gracefully back out of an issue you backed yourself in.  Afterall "There is no price for human life."

including cherynobal far less people die per year.  Do you know how many people are expected to die due to chernobyl?

4,050 or so.

Do you know how many people died due to chernobyl so far?

50.

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2005/pr38/en/index.html

 

How many people do you think die each year falling off roofs installing solar panels?  Or mining the ore that is needed to make solar panels.

Sigh.

http://cricket.biol.sc.edu/chernobyl/papers/TORCH.pdf

30,000 to 60,000 deaths. That's also in Wikipedia, check the Chernobyl disaster article.

I'm not backing up. We can cherry pick whatever information and there's going to be plenty of different accounts. The ones in Wikipedia are the ones I'm using.

Also, as I said, ONE fuck up in ALL history can have terrible consequences. How many people die falling from wind turbines? Even it was many, that can be prevented right? So the solution would be having better security measures.

Many people also die mining the fuel needed for power plants I assume.

My girlfriend's granparents live close to the Fukushima nuclear power station and you don't know what the area and its peole have gone through.

And what to do with nuclear waste? It will remain radioactive for MILLIONS of years? Who says future generations will have the ability to maintain that (increasing) waste under control? It's just a gamble.

Except... if you'll notice.  There estimate is based off of radiation effects being supralinear which they themselves admit is not what scientists currently believe to be the case.  They're basic premise is "Things could be a lot worse if we assume things are different from how so far scientific evidence points they are."

And no... basically nobody dies from Uranium mining.

Though you've entered in a personal element which shows why you are biased.

I might be against plane travel if I knew people who died in a plane crash even though statistically it's safer then driving a car.