thismeintiel said:
SvennoJ said:
mundus6 said:
Since next generation every game will be 100% from HDD, why drop DVD? PC games have been using DVD for years, why? Since the games comes mega compressed on disc and then you install it to the PC it works fine, very few games need 2 discs. So yeah i don't think MS will go with Blu-ray next gen and the certainly not will go with a new format nor HD-DVD.
Neither PS4 nor the new Xbox will play games from discs, i think thats the biggest design fault with this gen. Although 360 has fixed it now, there are still some games that does not have installs on PS3. Even a slow HDD is still at least twice as fast a Blu-Ray disc and imo next gen consoles should have SSD drives.
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I don't think it will be 100% HDD. The best way to reduce loading times is to stream data from HDD and Blu-ray at the same time. Install the data that needs a lot of random access to the HDD and leave the data that can be streamed in large continuous chunks on the blu-ray disk.
Better even with a extra fast smaller SSD drive to be used as cache next to the main HDD. HDDs are still limited to 5400 rpm for laptop sizes. The only way to load GBs of data fast next gen is to get it from multiple places at the same time. Plus Blu-ray drives are a lot faster now then the 2x speed in the ps3.
Remember Halo 3, that was actually slower fully installed to HDD due to smart disk caching. And why wait a long time copying fmv sequences to hdd while they can play perfectly fine from the disk and are already combined with game data to load the next part of the game in the background.
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Actually, given how fast Blu-ray can read data from a disc, next gen we will probably see less and less of games having to be installed to the HDD. If Sony goes with a 6x drive, it will be almost twice as fast as the max read speed of a 12x DVD drive. And if Sony uses a 8x drive, look out. 
Oh, and there are actually quite a few laptop HDD that are above 5400 RPM. The one I have in my PS3 is actually a 7200 RPM model.
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Ah true, my new laptop actually has a 7200rpm hdd I forgot.
7200rpm will give you 1030mbps max, 8x blu-ray 288mbps. HDD is still faster, and will always have better seek times, but using both at the same time will still be better then HDD alone. Especially if the game unpacks and/or caches data, thus also needs to write to the hdd.
