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Akvod on 30 May 2011
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Kasz216 said:
Akvod said:
oldschoolfool said:
Kasz216 said:

Nah.  The government overreaching would be them taxing unhealthy food.

Educating people on what they should eat... that's what the government should be trying to do.

Not sure how the plate is supposed to be better then the pyramid though.  It might just cause people to eat taller cuts of meat.


believe me,if they've talked about taxing unehealthy food,but nothings come of it. Everybody knows what they should eat,but people are going to eat what they want regardless,so the govment should stay out and go to hell. yeah!!!!!!!!!!!

If they taxed unhealthy food, that will reduce the number of unhealthy food being bought and eaten. Externaltities are a controversial topic, but I think it exists. People don't care about the cost incurred to the nation as a result of higher health problems from eating an unhealthy diet. Taxing them would apply that cost to them.

In doing so you are restricting peoples rights by penalizing them for their life choices.

Peoples rights exceed states rights.

If you don't like the nation incuring costs from eating an unhealthy diet... then don't have the government pay for peoples healthcare.

Well, it's not really "penalizing". It's making them personally incur the costs that they're simply forcing the nation to incur. As a conservative, you're against having tax payers pay for someone else's personal choice right? This is a way to prevent that in the least invasive way possible.

If we don't have the government pay for people's health care, then we have a lot of economic inefficienies, and on top of that, HUGE unrest. The lesson of the Great Depression, a lesson that Ottoman Bismark learned a long time before that, is that stability needs to be achieved, and compromise is needed.

FDR and the post-war governments are ultimately conservative. If you let things just free fall, you get extremism. Already, there's unrest with the tea party, and you can see the uproar the Ryan plan is causing with seniors. Now imagine a few more years when college graduates, after being raised with the assumption that they will join the middle class their parents raised them in, find that it no longer exists, and they can't get any jobs, permanetly fucking them over for their career development.