Vatican and Red Cross Helped Thousands of Nazis Escape Justice

[Kasz216]

Rath said:

Kasz216 said:

 

No.  It's more FDR and Churchill.

What he's saying isn't new, so much as better documented.

A lot of people got out via Red Cross and Vatican just in the rust of innocent people trying to get out too.

Others got out through the Vatican... via CIA and RIA insistance because they were thought to be able to be useful against the Soviets. 

During WW2 the allies were already planning for WW3.  Including Stalin.

When they won WW2 Patton suggested that while they had the tanks on the ground and troops in the field they should press the advantage with relativly fresh US troops and "Push till Moscow".  While enlisting what was left of the German Army to help!

 

Bishops who knowingly let nazis escape just because they wanted to... that's just silly on any large basis.  Maybe here and there for an occasional Catholic who didn't have much to do with the Nazi party... afterall not ALL people in the Nazi party were bad guys... just the main leaders... lots of people were just everyday people who joined to better feed their families.

What we're talking about here though is Nazi officers fleeing to countries that were not under the influence of the USA (though the USA made little effort to pursue them after they had fled). The ratline that some people in the Vatican formed mostly lead to South America, Argentina in particular. An example of a person that was helped to escape by a Catholic Bishop is Eichmann, the architect of the holocaust - not one of those good people you're talking about.

Have a read of these wiki articles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratlines_(World_War_II)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alois_Hudal

 

Edit: Oh and the Vatican itself would not have done something like the Holocaust. They were murky and ambivalent on the issue of anti-semitism, preferring politics of self-preservation to taking a moral stand. Much like they did recently with the paedophile priests controversy really...

Actually, the book is about both.  Which is my point.

Ala Amazon

"Steinacher not only reveals how Nazi war criminals escaped from justice at the end of the Second World War, fleeing through the Tyrolean Alps to Italian seaports, but he also highlights the key roles played by the Red Cross, the Vatican, and the Secret Services of the major powers."

Everyone is glossing over the last one, because the first one is the meat of the book... and the second one is explosive.

As for Hudal... Individual bishops cursades doesn't = the vatican intentionally helped people escape... it meant someone in the vatican intentionally helped nazis escape.

Which is exactly what the book is outlining.  That which you just wikipedied....

again from the summary

"Einacher underscores the importance of the South Tyrol as a "ratline" from Germany to Italy and also reveals that many figures in the Catholic Church--sometimes knowingly, other times unwittingly--were involved in large-scale Nazi smuggling, often driven by the fear of an imminent communist takeover of Italy."

 

Not the vatican itself... but individual bishops working on their own... that we already knew about.

 

Oh also as for SA

"Finally, the book documents how the Counter Intelligence Corps and later the CIA recruited former SS men to advise U.S. intelligence agencies and smuggled them out of Soviet-occupied areas of Austria and Eastern Europe into Italy and on to South America."

Amazon link for source.:

http://www.amazon.com/Nazis-Run-Hitlers-Henchmen-Justice/dp/0199576866