PlayStation Portable - A great success.

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M.U.G.E.N said:

now you see there's a reason why I didn't reply to your last reply -_- it's just gonna drag on and at the end we will just have to agree to disagree on this

the stand on your head thing was exagaration..OBVIOUSLY! lol don't take it too seriously

and you are flat out wrong. If I started arguing with everyone who stated that I won't be able to leave threads like this. and even if I did that doesn't imply I'm worked up, it implies I flat out disagree with them and I let them know so. Have nothing to do with being angry or anything silly like that.

And again it IS common sense, not a diagreement of opinions. What dictates a success are things that matters to the company not fans who are searching for the next fodder in the console warz! lol. PSP sold a lot, earned money for the company and going into next gen Sony will be happy with how PSP did. In a business expectations and goals can and does change, simple as that. WHen you start off it's not really a bad strategy to aim highest as you can, doesn't mean any less is a failure for a business, simple as that. The wii and 3ds comments were to show how flawed your logic was, both of those products have their shortcomings, doesn't meany they were (will be) a failure for the company. As long as they help getting money, marketshare etc. it's a success for them. So is the psp for Sony. And don't misunderstand, I never said or implied you and I are saying the same thing, that's rediculous if THAT's what you got from my posts. You should take your own advice about reading things better I think. What I'm saying is that saying psp in the long term wasn't a success for Sony is misguided to say it in the most sincerest way possible. If selling a console iaround 80 mil in a market they entered for the first time too mind you, and was more than enough to make a succesor and have around 80 devs already making games for it = long term failure...I clearly have nothing to argue with you about. For some reason you can't seem to move on from the bu bu it was supposed to ... mode.Let me make it EVEN simpler for yyou here, if 3DS sells in it's LT around only 70-80mil and if it brings ninty money and have game support moving into the next gen, it will still be a success. Not AS successful as the DS, but a success nontheless. But then again one might argue about losing marketshare if that happens, but that doesn't apply for the PSP.

As for the perspective point, sure, for anyone but the company who had their personal expectations not met things might not be a success for sure. But for Sony? PSP is anything but a failure. Like I said refer to d2lewis's post, he nailed in the least number of words possible. It did a lot of things a company would want from a product entering a new market, gained marketshare, money, good foothold entering the next gen.

oh and that hypocracy thing just flew over your head it seems :D but I won't bother pointing it out but for the record that intentional thing you say you did is not the part I'm pointing at, I'll just leave it at that

I know it was an exaggeration, :P.

Anyhow, you need to understand that there's more than one  way of looking at it. If Sony had thought that the PSP will sell 200m lifetime and it ended up with 80m, it is perfectly valid to think that the console is a failure. It isn't necessarily, but a lot of people will think it is one - it's far from common sense to think it isn't. Of course, there's your argument with it having a library that appeals to many, making money, having a hyped sequel and stuff, but if it underperforms relative to expectations, it's common sense for some to think that it's a failure. I'm not saying that, though, I'm just saying that there's a reasonable argument for it being a failure and it being a success isn't common sense.

If the 3DS ends up with 80m in sales, I'll consider it perfectly logical to call it a failure, even if I personally disagree.

Also, I'm terribly confused now. From what I got, you were calling the Wii a failure so that I understood that I can't "make up random measures for success" as you claimed I'm doing for the PSP since that makes the Wii a failure, which, well, isn't exactly true. If that's not what you meant, then could you please explain?

Oh, and please point out my hypocrisy. I can't see it and I may as well recognize my faults if I'm gonna waste time arguing. Enlighten me, if you wouldn't mind.