Alby_da_Wolf said:
o_O.Q said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
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o_O.Q said:
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lmfao and my analogy was bad? knives can be used for a variety of applications that can be used to benefit all people, but yes they may also cause harm...
on the other hand in the case of custom firmware and keys to unlock consoles the majority of the users aren't going to use them ( by majority here at least 90% ) meaning they benefit only a small minority, however, they can be used for purposes that may affect all users adversely, for example, when the hacking community took over CoD on the ps3 and made it unplayable...
but i guess for some people once the hackers get their way everythings cool the average consumer who just wants to use their product can jsut go piss off right? lol great analogy sony shouldn't have done anything they should have allowed the hackers to take over their network and screw over the majority of consumers
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Nobody pretends that the right to mod your own things be extended to affect others against their will. Everybody's right to mod their consoles ends outside of the walls of their homes, and can only be extended where they are accepted by other players and by the network's owner, if not used in a public one (. It's all about personal freedom, its basic rule applies everywhere. And your argument about the usefulness for a minority is totally flawed, for example any single medication is used just by a minority, and it's often harmful for people not needing it.
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1. the point here is that the hackers do not follow your obviously very moral guidelines they generally don't care what happens to the community once they get what they want... an example of this as i stated was "when the hacking community took over CoD on the ps3 and made it unplayable"... how did having idiots take the game you payed for and making it worthless benefit anyone but the hackers?
"And your argument about the usefulness for a minority is totally flawed, for example any single medication is used just by a minority, and it's often harmful for people not needing it."
2. lol did you just compare medication that given the right conditions can be useful for anyone at all to custom firmware and keys to unlock consoles that most ( more than 90% ) of console users won't use? btw how does medication adversely affect people who don't use it?
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1. Those that don't respect the others' rights can and must be stopped, and punished if what they did is a crime. But only them and nobody else.
2. Medication used correctly benefits the minority that needs it and it doesn't harm anybody else. The same applies to hacks and mods, their correct use benefits a minority and it doesn't harm anybody else. BTW people abusing medications, if psychoactive ones, can harm also people not using them, the analogies are more than it seems at the first look. In both cases the solution is enforcing the abidance of laws and rules in every context where others can be affected, not depriving minorances of things that can benefit them also and possibly mainly in ways that don't harm others.
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yes agreed, but the point is that when geohot posted the keys online anyone who wanted to do these malicious acts was given the ability to do so... obviously some hackers will not interfere in the network and will not pirate but the point is that some will
"The same applies to hacks and mods, their correct use benefits a minority and it doesn't harm anybody else."
I'm kind of getting tired repeating the same thing over and over... do you own a ps3? if you did you would understand that the hacking communtiy ( at least the ones on ps3 ) does not follow your those guidelines they interfere in the online activities of users, for example for the third time :
"when the hacking community took over CoD on the ps3 and made it unplayable"
bear in mind that that only happened after geohot posted the keys online
