PlayStation Portable - A great success.

[Immortal]

M.U.G.E.N said:

Immortal said:

You see, we're talking about consoles as wholes, not just their temporary performance. While yes, 3DS's current performance is that of a failure, the entire console isn't (yet, at least).

You have to be extremely desperate to offend if you consider the Wii a failure. It has sold several (dozen?) times more than initial expectations by most in 2005/6. Comparing it to the PS2 or any previous generation leader (all of which the Wii is destroying, for the record) has no basis whatsoever. Its recent sales compared to 2007/8 expectations have failed, but the entire console has done as much the opposite of that as possible.

Finally, I think you should pay attention to my arguments if you're implying that I'm calling the PSP a failure. I have claimed at least a couple of time that it isn't one. I'm just saying that people are needlessly sugarcoating it by calling it a great success.

I'd leave it at that, but you've made some more arguments so I have to try to counter them, xD. Having an amazing library is far too subjective to mean anything. I think I already said that, if you put it its sales into perspective by brand stanards, sales aren't that fancy. Also, I hope PSP's happy about getting some a year or so of dominance after being crushed to pieces for several years running. Really, that's too short term to mean much.

lol desperate? I'm not the one in a thread to celebrate something trying to downplay it, now THAT is desperation. Quite sad lil situation too.

success is a very subjectivve matter. For me as an owner of both DS and PSP, I think the psp is miles better than the DS. I like the games on it much better. We do not know what the companies wanted from their products from get go. Will they gun for the top? Obviously, otherwise that would just horrible business goal setting there. But I have yet to see Sony showing any signs of dissapointment in their product. And many people will agree, psp has been a great success story. Just because one is more successful doesn't mean the other isn't, there are varying degrees to such a thing. DS for example has been a phenomenal success! calling it a great success is undermining it imho even if I don't like the device as much.

Wii is a horrible gen leader, truly weak compared to previous gens. It's getting slapped around in sales even by the weakening psp! game support is nil atm. 3rd party support is non existent other than for carnival and dance games almost. it's very weak compared to the specs of the competition. Online is a laughable compared psn/xbl. So if I make a metric of judging success compared to previous leaders then I would call it a failure as well. See I can make up my own metrics too ya know. But reality is it's a success. It sold really well, brought lots of money for ninty and help them enter a market that wasn't tapped to such an extent before.

No one is sugar coating anything here, it was a great success, it's still doing well and doesn't depend on people discovering the 'magic' in it. Great games, great sales, market share, yep it's a great lil success story :) move along now

Making attacks at consoles I like when we're arguing about the PSP's success, or lack thereof, rather than countering my arguments really seems desperate to me, though, again, I suppose that's subjective. That "discovering the 'magic'" part really appeared to be a cheap shot to me.

And I'm really not trying to downplay it. I'm just stating another point of view on the subject that would otherwise go ignored in this kind of thread. I can't fathom why you can't accept that there's plenty of room to argue that it's not a success because it didn't fulfill long term expectations or live up to past franchise performance. I never denied that there's lots to say that it is one.