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Galvanizer on 26 May 2011
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Zkuq said:
Galvanizer said:
badgenome said:
Galvanizer said:

Sorry, but without story being a factor, FF12 has the far better gameplay experience. Story doesn't make a game, gameplay does.

Well, that's entirely subjective. I can't say which one I think has the superior gameplay because, as I said, I quit 12 pretty early on. But for what it's worth, I think 13 had a terrible story.

I agree, it is subjective. Each FF game is too different to compare. That's why I'm going solely on the technical proficiency of the gameply systems. Examples:

1) Gambits in FF12 allow you to customise AI in minute level of detail. FF13 doesn't even have customizable AI.

2) FF12 lets you control all three characters in battle if you want. FF13 doesn't even have this feature in the game.

3) FF12 has seamless battles and you can even move all your characters while in battle. FF13 does not have seamless battles and you can't even move one of your characters in battle.

4) FF12 has vast towns, over 300 NPCs in the entire game, and numerous vast maps to explore. FF13 has one town that is tiny, it has 50 NPCs in the entire game, and only one huge vast map at the end.

The above are all game design points. This is why I say that without story, the gameplay in FF12 is better than FF13. You may not have liked the gameplay, but it was still technically and systematically better than that in FF13.

Other than this, it's all subjective.

Oh, so game X is better than game Y because it has more features?

As I said, it is subjective in everything apart from the above 4 points. Each FF game is too different to compare. That's why I'm going solely on the technical proficiency of the gameplay systems. The following are technical points about game design and programming that FF12 has while FF13 does not:

- Deeply Customizable AI.

- Completely seamless battles.

- Player can still move around the party leader when in battle.

- Player can issue commands for all party members  and therefore control all party members in battle.

- Loads of towns, 300 NPCs in the whole game to talk to, and loads of huge maps to explore.

Seriously, FF12 is the technically better game from a game design and programming stand point. There's no getting around that. Wal Mart is a much better supermarket to buy from than a corner shop due to the amount of "features" it offers. In the same way, FF12 is a better in gameplay experience than FF13 as it offers far more gameplay "features" for the player. Whether you like these more features or not is what's subjective. You may still prefer to buy from the corner shop as it's local and your friends with the owner. You may prefer FF13 to FF12 as you didn't like the gameplay in FF12 and clicked with the gameplay in FF13 more. However, all that shit doesn't change the fact that FF12 has more features and a much more technically proficient gameplay system.