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Alby_da_Wolf said:
o_O.Q said:
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1. in the suing of geohot they were suing the person responsible for posting the keys to the ps3 online, the person whos actions caused the piracy and cheating online so yes they were attacking a threat

2. "Sony could have found a viable way to keep Linux and make its honest users happy" how, since linux itself was what was exploited ( do you really think its that simple to say they should have found another way? )? originally linux was what allowed the hackers to break in so it was removed

3. with regards to this lets say for example that piracy or online cheating is water coming through a leak and the leak can be the exploit in question... taking a sponge and removing some of the water will work to a certain extent but unless the source is patched it is pointless... as i said it makes absolutely no sense to go after the pirates on an individual basis if the exploit is still there continuously allowing others to join in the activity

1. That is what they state, but in a lot of other cases, like phones jailbreaking, courts ruled there were legit uses for the hacks, and we know there are also for GeoHot's one.

2. Pirates used Linux to break through because there was a vulnerability in the way Sony implemented OtherOS, the right thing to do was removing that vulnerability, as they would have been forced to do so if the vulnerability were in a subsystem essential for gaming or movie playing, for example. Moreover, once Sony produced millions vulnerable PS3s, removing Linux from successively produced ones was totally pointless, pirates just need old unpatched consoles to crack the security and also to study without problems every other subsystem, looking for other vulnerabilities in parts Sony just can't remove. Sony closed the stable door after the horse has bolted.

3. Responsibility is individual, not collective so Sony really hasn't choice about it, you can't interrupt water supply to everybody because in some homes there are leaks. But Sony hasn't just the instrument of suing pirates, it can kick them out of its networks without the need of suing, for breach of the rules that everybody wanting to access them must explicitly accept (much stronger and enforceable obligation than EULAs).


1. what does the court have to do with it the point is that they were attacking a threat to their security 

2. maybe the best or only way to remove the vulnerability was the complete removal of other os i'm no hacker so i'm not sure all i can say is that i prefer its removal to going online to play my games and having morons ruin it

3. "it can kick them out of its networks without the need of suing" thats not the point here geohot and the people who were providing the leaks or exploits weren't offensive because they messed with the online system directly but because of the exploits they provided which when altered allowed the cheaters and pirates to get online