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johnsobas said:
t's not a slim chance, it's a 0% chance.

If BR takes off and sells loads they might get close or cut it even, but it would need to offset 1-2 billion dollars lost (assuming PS3 eats back a big chunk of the losses). There's 2 possibilities that might make this a moot point anyway. First is that BR may not take off, it may only ever be a small niche. Second is that BR might ve won even without the PS3, which is a real possibility.

Why would PS3 have a long life like the PS2? It's not the PS2, it will never be anywhere near as successful as the PS2. Wii will outright dominate the demographic that PS3 will need to command in order to continue to sell any systems that late in its life cycle. Not only that but losing consoles have always died quite quickly when they are replaced, while winning consoles tend to live for another 1-2 years after the next gen version is released

  1. First is that BR may not take off Agreed
  2. It may only ever be a small niche Agreed, but i think the studios are looking at HD to reduce illegal copies for the short term, because of actual size.
  3. Second is that BR might have won even without the PS3. Could have, but HD was more market ready, since all BR models sold prior to 08 (except the PS3) are not compatible with the new discs.
  4. Why would PS3 have a long life like the PS2. Agreed, why would it at this stage be better than the PS2. But if it sells more than 40M however then, i think it would sell for sometime after the PS4 if it ha the games to support it, but NOT if it is uncompetitive against the xbox360 at the same time.
  5. Wii will outright dominate the demographic that PS3 will need to command in order to continue to sell any systems that late in its life cycle. I think this has merit


I agree alot The PS3 is defiantly in uncharted territory, and i think if i was in Sony's position i would be looking hard at the plan. Do they conceded this round, and try to make as much profit as possible or do they compete with MS on price to hold as much market share as possible at the risk of investors.

 Luckily Sony is not a 1 Show pony, and has other areas that generate profit, but they obviously need to evaluate their position in the gaming industry. Nintendo had enough IP and innovation to survive, Sony may not, so can they really afford to lose market share.

Im optimistic at this point that they could still pull of a small net profit over the life of the ps3. ( only a little optimistic) 



Predictions JAN 08

2008 PS3-19.5M(actual 19.5) XBOX360-23M(actual 27.5) Wii - 37M(actual 45.8M)

End of 2009 PS3-27 25M XBOX360-30 35M Wii - 48 63M (revised DEC 08)

Price Point
Mid 2008 Wii $250 Xbox360$249 Xbox360(HDD)$299 PS3 $399

Mid 2009 Wii $189 Xbox360$199 Xbox360(HDD)$249 PS3 $339

Mid 2010 Wii $ 149 Xbox360$159 Xbox360(HDD)$199 PS3 $289