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Antabus on 22 May 2011
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Soleron said:
Antabus said:
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No, you don't buy them.

If you buy something, you own it. Not just the rights to use the thing you bought. Like, you could sell the product you have bought. People's stupidity does not make rental a sold game.

I actually mailed Valve and they said that I can't sell the games. Heck, they told me that I can't even sell my account. How is that owning something when in actuality all you have is the right to use the product? Tell me, please?

Hasn't been tested in court. Now I will move purely to conjecture rather than what I feel is 100%, but I think it would be ruled that you do own a copy of the game and you are allowed to sell it the same as a physical object.

But that is NOT rental. If Valve withdrew access to their games to a group of people they don't like, that would not be within their rights even if the TOS said so. To use an extreme example, imagine they did that to black people and put that in the TOS. Would it be within their rights to do that?

Now on the topic of what SHOULD happen, rather than what does: I believe all digital distribution games should carry the same rights as a physical copy to unlimited format transfer for personal use and the right to sell on.

Huh? Of course the rent can't be terminated within what is said on the contract/agreement. If the rentee breaks the agreed rules, renter can terminate the rent. Pretty simple.

I don't know about american legal system, but I think someone would shout "racism" and that clause on TOS would be taken off. In my opinion, everyone should be able to pick their customers, so I think that they should be within their rights to do that. But that is just my opinion. And since we are on american forum, I want to make clear that my opinion has nothing to do with racism. That is just a reply to his extreme example, it would have been the same if he had used any other segment of customers.

 

I can agree on your last notion, that is how it should be.