Nintendo 3DS: The Failed Launch

[Tizona]

RolStoppable said:

Tizona said:

The mass market things was me responding to this part of Splooge's post

"Nintendo is out of touch with the mass market. The mass market does not want 3D Ocarina of Time or Metal Gear Solid 3 or Star Fox 64 or whatever the hell us is supposed to be the savior of the hardware."

To me, and I think you Rol, the mass market ARE the ones who want to replay old games for nostalgia reason, and want gimmicks like 3d to show their friends. I agree with you Rol, that Nintendo is NOT out of touch with the mass market. Maybe I just suck at communicating that.

As far as sales, yeah, the super long life and multiple itertions of the GameBoy may have given me a false impression, so I could be wrong. Good point sir. But the DS and even the PSP have outsold their respective Console brothers and the Xbox.

I still don't think holding 3DS up to a "beat the DS or it fails" measurment is fair or accurate. People say the PS3 is not a fail, and I would agree with them, though it has sold VASTLY under the PS2. But to each his own!

Thank you gentleman for a most spirited debate.....sooooo....you guys wanna be 3DS friends?    ;)

No, that's not what the massmarket is to me. The massmarket wants games to play with their friends, not to show off. The massmarket didn't play the games that were mentioned when they originally came out, so it's unlikely that they will want to play them this time.

I did say that the DS was the first handheld to do it.

It is fair to hold the 3DS to this measurement. Since its inception, the video games industry has continually grown, so any decline must be treated as failure (unless an unforeseen catastrophe happens). The people who say that the PS3 is not a failure are wrong, there's no way around it. It sold less than the PS2, it lost Sony a lot of marketshare and most importantly, it lost billions of dollars. Do you know what it means to call the PS3 anything but a failure? It means that no video game system ever was a failure and that certainly does sound wrong, doesn't it?

I still haven't taken my 3DS online, maybe I'll get around to it once the eShop launches.

My hope would be that some of the "mass market" that didn't play these games when they first came out, may not have even been gamers at that time, and so a few of them will come over to our side as real gamers or whatever the hell we who post on game forums call ourselves.

It seems like this (as with most arguments) boils down to what each person views as failure, and how we view the market as pieces and as a whole. I don't think we'll ever all agree, but it's fun to discuss. I don't agree with everything you guys have said, but seriously, if you get your 3DS online, I'm always up for a game....when they come out.