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dib8rman said:


"Wherever American military aid goes, violence normally follows it and increases tenfold in the region. Look at Pre 9/11, Pakistan was much more stable." ~ You

I'm exploring what you call stable, I'm saying I don't see the exporting of terror as point anyone sane should like to call stable. It's downright pathetic to say: "Well they can kill a few thousand people in America as long as it keeps the region stable." It's just another of the same argument that the problem is the West and not the threat to it.

It's sadomasochistic and nihilistic from a westerner and an indoctrination to villainy from anything else.

But Pakistan wasn't exporting terror to the US though. Sure it recognised the Taliban and gave them support (so did the UAE and Saudi Arabia and the Clinton administration even tried to do business with them) that's as far as it went. In fact the FBI still haven't even provided conclusive proof OBL was behind 9/11 hence they never mentioned 9/11 on the reason why he was the most wanted man on earth and Bin Laden wasn't in Pakistan. It was well known if the US took major military action rather then leave it to the likes of the FBI and CIA (i.e detective/police work) then terrorism would multiply tremendously. And it did. The death and destruction it has wrought in Pakistan/Afghanistan/Iraq has created tens of thousands of jihadist militants and all for what? The pockets of Halliburton and major arms manufacturers? Iraq was a massive strategic failure. The war in Afghanistan looks increasingly likely it will have to end in a political solution rather than a military one. Nuclear armed Pakistan is in deep serious trouble. The world has never felt less safe and Goverments around the world are attacking civil liberties left, right and centre. It has been an utter waste of lives and money. Hundreds of thousands dead and well over $1 trillion spent, money that could've been spent on word wide aid and repairing the creaking US infrastrucure, inefficient health care system and creating jobs. This is the reality, it's the truth so don't try and take the moral high ground.