zarx said:
HappySqurriel said:
zarx said:
HappySqurriel said:
I think you're making a very large assumption that Nintendo's next console will be closer in processing power to the NGP than Sony and Microsoft's next generation console. It is possible (and even likely) that this assumption will be false ...
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All rumours point towords Cafe being very close to the 360 so assuming that is true and the fact that I don't think MS and Sony are going to low ball their next machines and the fact this generation is looking to be a long one I am assuming that their next consoles will be many times more powerful, MS and Sony can't afford to go for a small jump as that would mean that the Cafe would get all the multiplats and it would be much harder to convince consumers that the new console is a significant upgrade, they can't use kinect of Move or some other control gimick like Nintendo did because they have set the president that they will be addons, they can't use online services because both have already added tones to their existing consoles, baring some form of mind reading device they will need power as a selling point they don't have another option. But there are other factors that rumours all state that the Cafe will have a "small" touch screen on the controller would mean that games designed for that size screen is another reason for a lot of cross plats with the NGP.
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... and rumours have been amazingly accurate at predicting Nintendo systems in the past?
Beyond the obvious failure to predict Nintendo previously, the rumours actually say very little about real-world performance and really only talk about what the system's components are based on. Being that the assumption is that these components are modified to suit Nintendo's needs, it is (nearly) impossible to make any claims of performance based on their loose similarities to other technology. After all, both the Cell processor and the Xenon were based on an outdated powerPC core architecture (Power3 IIRC) but after 5 years of modifying the core these processors don't perform anywhere near what you would expect from what they were originally based on.
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I am bassing the power mainly on the sources that say around 360 level performance plus ubisoft saying that they will use PS360 level assets. All this tels me that real world performance including the possible overhead of the multiple displays etc is leading to games using PS360 level assets which the NGP is capable of using down rezed a bit. Even if the games are multiplatform I would imagine that the Cafe version would look and run significantly better.
As for the validity of the rumours, in the past Nintendo have kept their new hardware under very tight raps pre release but this gen they are pushing for more 3rd party support which means giving more outside people axxess to the hardware at a much earlyer stage and this enevitably leads to leaks. Obviusly not all will be correct and most won't be 100% acurate but I think we have enough information get a rough idea of the console.
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You don't have any idea AT ALL.
Until we see some tech demos or at least are told what GPU or whatever it has, you don't know the power of the console.
All the rumours have told us so far is they could be using an R700 GPU, which could mean a half generational jump (medium end R700) to a generational jump (high end R700).
The only people who know anything are the ones who have seen what's under the hood of the console.
