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Stefan.De.Machtige said:
BenVTrigger said:

@goforgold

 

You do realized that at least 50% of all PS3 players would be labeled as "casual" by the people on these forums don't you? The fact is that most players on both the PS3 and 360 only purchase 2 - 3 games a year and most of the time its vary large mainstream titles like Madden and Call of Duty. The actual gaming landscape is FAR different than what you see on these boards that's why I can't help but laugh at how rediculous "core" gamers are sometimes in terms of discussing gameing trends.

Look at games like Killzone that get massive internet hype and in comparision to install base sell very low numbers. Why is that? Its because the majority of consumers aren't "core" players they are casuals. They don't get on the internet looking at reviews and trailers on all the "core" games coming out. They want big franchises they are familiar with and their friends play.

More gamers need to actually get a correct perspective on sales and work in retail, because trust me it will shock you how mainstream and casual ALL console demographics are, not just the Wii.

And yes PS3 sales are in the toilet at Gamestop right now, why do you think we are offering $100 off brand new systems to our PowerUp Rewards members? Here's a hint, because they aren't exactly flying off the shelves.

 

And the worst for Sony is that they can't really shake this bad image. Like the xbox (rrod) and wii (mom's console) once it's set like that in the mind of the mainstream, erasing it is near impossible. Even if Sony pushes a big PR campaign - which they will have to do - this won't go away.

People are herd animals and once the herd is moving in one direction it's hell getting them to go the other way.

This thing could even force a pricecut on the PS3.

Both of these posts are QFT.

I can say personally that the bad rep never dies down. I think its a rule of the internet, if you fuck something up it will never ever be forgotten. I mean my 360 has been nearly 2 years now (this is my first one) and I have had 0 issues with it. But every time I go anywhere online, people are always stating how they were on their 10th 360 before they finally gave up and switched. This makes me think either I am one of the luckiest gamers alive or they are blatantly overexagerating lying, and I am inclined to believe its the latter.

As for the casual demographic, I can vouch for that since a LOT of my friends do not go around checking for reviews or what not. They don't follow any certain publisher or developer, heck I don't even think they know who made COD (or the fact that COD alternates between IW and Treyarch every year), which is what they mainly always play. So yea, the mainstream audience is indeed very different than what some people on these boards tend to perceive.