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dib8rman said:
Badassbab said:


If someone said what you just said to me, that Pakistan was at peace or even stable before the US arrived then I would need context and if that context should be anything like a statement of terror planners of Pakistan living unchecked while they exported strikes at the western world, then I would know a person saying what you just said might either be just another relativistic nihilist if they lived in any western country or an extremist if they lived in the middle east.

Noam tried pulling the same stunt back in 1990, I get it, we are supposed to check ourselves but ideas like America putting Saddam in power or causing sectarian violence in the Middle East or in some way elevating it are both nihilistic if spoken by any person who enjoys a democracy and historically fals

No one has said Pakistan was at peace or stable before 9/11  so not sure where you got that from. Also from your statement I presume you mean to say Pakistan was not at peace or stable at all pre 9/11. First of all Pakistan like a lot of countries around the world suffered the odd act of violence, in their case sectarian violence.  This is true and I mentioned this. I also accurately claimed before Pakistan was forced to join the so called War on Terror it was much more stable then it is now. Far more stable then it is now and furthermore Osama Bin Laden wasn't living in Pakistan then. These are the facts. Look for any news articles pre 9/11 and you will be very hard pressed to find the corporate elitist Western media accusing Pakistan of anything even though it was supporting the vicious Taliban (along with US favourite Saudi Arabia- the number one leading sponsor of spreading the teachings of violent jihadism).