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spammythesmartone said:
UltimateUnknown said:
spammythesmartone said:
UltimateUnknown said:

Ohhhhhh yea, I can only imagine a shit ton of games (hardcore) coming out this fall, be it Kinect or not.

Lets review whats coming to the 360 (this fall mostly) which might interest the hardcore:

-Forza 4

-Halo Combat re-evolved (Heavily rumoured)

-Gears 3

-Steel Batalion

-Alan Wake (New but not 2)

-Haunt

-Codename D (Looks to be promising)

-Rise of Nightmares (House of the dead Kinect anyone?)

-Gunstringer (IMO doesn't look that great, but still might be good)-XBLA

-Project Draco (Looks to be beast)-XBLA

-Rare, Vancouver and this new studio all working on new games.

-I may have missed some, so put them in if I have.

 

Now I know not all of these games are what you would call AAA titles, but several of them are new IPs, so you have to give them a chance to debut before passing on judgement (Plus new IPs are always good for the industry). On top of this, there are probably gonna be a lot more games MS will debut in E3 for either a fall release or for 2012.

Rare working on kinect sports 2 and most of those games are kinect games so probably not hardcore (even if MS calls them hardcore) and we haven't seen anything substanical for any of those games, your list seems to be wishful thinking

So you are saying Steel Battalion and Rise of Nightmares are gonna be casual?

I don't know about you, but my grandma would probably have a heart attack if she played sometime like RoN.

Kinect doesn't necessarily have to be ALL casual, and seeing as the 360's install base is mostly hardcore, it would make sense for MS to try and push Kinect towards the hardcore as well. All the games that have been named have been either shown or confirmed at some point or another, so they are not wishful thinking, but some of them may be delayed to 2012. We will probably find out more at E3.

Lack of control makes making a real game with kinect nearly impossible the games have ipad controls at best, they can get away with it with a rts but thats about it, and lots of gore does not make the gameplay hardcore, a skin is a skin you can use the same game with rainbows and bunnies that turn into unicorns and fly away when you shoot it with a rainbow it's still the same gameplay 

You can't judge whether a game is going to be good or not before it comes out.

Also, we have yet to see kinect being implimented in many games, so we can't tell what Kinect controls can be used for, without hands on experience. I personally think Kinect has great potential used as a secondary controller to the conventional one, which would open up more control options. I am especially liking what they are doing with Forza 4 where Kinect is supported besides the regular controller..