Scoobes said:
Allfreedom99 said:
I see there is no room for consideration from you, as well as Im sure you see there is no room for consideration from me on your views of the origin of the universe. Im sure you think my views are foolish, as I think your views are foolish. You say I am only looking through the prism of my own human intellect. But what else do we have to make sense of the universe around us other than what our human knowledge can understand? You say that there are factors we have not even discovered yet that will help us unravel the origins of the universe. What we have is human intellect and we make educated guesses on the information we have at our fingertips about the very beginning. I see design and order among chaos. All you see is chaos. Thats what you have implied.
I will never understand the atheist view as also I know atheist will never understand a theists view. I look up into our vast universe and I see beauty, and a vast cosmos of splendor. I see planets naturally orbiting their stars. I see trillions of stars among each trillions of galaxies. I see a solar eclipse take place and see that the moon aligns perfectly with our star and we have a perfect viewing platform to experience it. I look at our earth and see beauty, colors, wonderful smells, and life. I watch the sunset over the waters and can only think, how beautiful that is. I go outside on a nice warm summer day and breathe in the fresh air. I see a huge beautiful universe and a special planet that we live on and it makes me see the evidence of a designer. You look at it all and see mathematical calculations that occured by chance. You see elements that naturally just occurred with no knowledgeable force to guide them. You will never understand me. I will never understand you.
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You make it sound like atheists can't view the world and universe as beautiful or can't be spiritual. You don't need to believe in a creator to see beauty in the world. If anything, I think the world is more beautiful and humbling without a creator. Seeing the raw power of the world/universe and our relative insignificance is imo the most humbling and spiritual of experiences one can go through. The fact that we've developed and have the capacity to manipulate the world and nature in the way that we do is beautiful.Just because we understand some of the science behind what we observe doesn't mean it can't still take our breath away. In fact, for me, it makes it more beautiful.
None of this beauty requires evidence or belief in a creator.
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Scoobes, read my post to highwaystar and I basically say the same to you. I just didnt want to have to type out everything trying to explain it in a different way. :)
