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theprof00 said:
LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
LivingMetal said:
theprof00 said:
thranx said:

Thats great, was anyhting factually wrong in what I stated? For dealing with facts you sure dont use many. Morals? Who is being morally wrong here? How is doing something to what I own a moral wrong (not that i own a ps3 nor have i ever hacked anyhting)

You said that it's safe to assume that hacking a console is legal, citing pc and cellphones as reasoning.

You are making an argument based on a theory. Theory =|= fact.

We can talk all day about why pc and cell phones would be exceptions, and you can tell me how it's all the same. We'll never agree.

In the case of cell phones, it was decided that not allowing jailbreaking gave too much power to cell phone companies. In fact, the ruling on it is more related to the number-integrity case that happened a few years before in which it was decided by law that cell phones were required to let you take your own telephone number to a different carrier. The idea was that phone companies were locking people in unfairly by a customer losing their number.This is the same situation people with 600$ phones face today. Want to leave verizon because it's 100$/ month? Nope, not allowed, otherwise your phone is worthless. Cellphone jailbreaking ruling is consumer protection, not consumer rights.


You see why it's hopeless?

I brought up points that showed occasions were hacking your own equiptment was legal. You are more than welcome to show me some court cases people have lost for hacking their own hardware. I would love the info.


The context and subject here is Sony and the PS3.  Let's not divert attention from things we cannot sucessfully argue.  Peace.

And what will you do if I find some. I'm curious.

If I went and got stuff showing that you cannot hack your car computer, what would you do?


I will look into the reason why and determine if is similar to a reasson why you would not be able to hack a ps3. It may be that you can't bring your car on public roads once its been hacked just like you can't bring your hacked ps3 onto the psn.

 

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2002/0708/148.html looks like you are atleast allowed to tell people how to hack their own vehicles

 

edit: I do not hack myself and know very little of it. I am all for freedom though as long as your not hurting others and that all i have vested in this case. I really do not care about hacking as I dont think i'll ever have the need to hack anything myslef, but just because i do not does not mean i want to take those rights away from others that do see the need.