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theprof00 said:

I'm sorry if it appears that I am ignorant of such things. I'm simply ignoring the things I don't agree with or have already addressed.

1. Sony couldn't have done it because CIA and homeland security would find out about it. They certainly wouldn't use it to lie to congress either. Yes, there would be motivation to do it, but there isn't the ability to do it. Everything loaded onto the server has a "birthdate" (and to counter the other guy) an "upload" date. I can say with 100% confidence that everything this guy did, was done at the same time, within a span of minutes. Additionally, date changes can be tracked, so they're not capable of changing the date to alter the data. I'm sure you know what the penalties are for tampering witha crime scene, as well as the penalties for lying to a congressional body.

2. This is the issue I'm having with your argument; this is my problem with your logic.  You say things, but you don't explain the "how". You just say broad generalizations like, "lead them away from the actual hacker". If someone were to casually read your point, they'd say, "that makes sense". But, my problem is deeper, and it's something you've yet to address within context. That problem....that question, is, "how exactly does framing an anonymous, bodyless entity, nay, idea help the hacker not get caught".

You say, "more time spent hunting anonymous". That is like saying "more time hunting the public", or "more time hunting internet users". Anonymous is a concept, it's an idea. It's not an organized group. Anonymous IS some douche in an Eastern European country. Anonymous IS a company CEO. Anonymous is everyone and anyone. So when you make it seem like it's redirecting, you're wrong. Like I said previously, it's not like saying, "Al-jafira claims another victory against imperialists". CIA can look at Al-jafira, take the information they have on the group, and investigate using operatives. This is not the case. THAT would be leading the CIA in the wrong direction, because what is actually a tangible group with a regional presence that can be outlined, with communication pathways that can be tracked.

So, that also cannot be the case. You may argue that he is too dumb to understand that, and just did it without thinking it through. Well, I'll admit that I can't really counter that argument. A fools actions are hard to justify.

The last paragraph (which I editted to be a paragraph) makes sense, but then the question becomes, "why leave anything at all".

Look, if you're out to not get caught, and you live in one of those countries, why leave any message at all? Anonymous is anyone. Anonymous can be someone from the Netherlands, or Australia, or China, or Nicaragua. If anything, claiming Anonymous allows for a broad interpretation. It does not make it smaller. It doesn't point away from your home country. "We are anonymous, we are legion" is a saying known throughout the world in the online communities.

So, I don't really understand you point about the message being left to somehow "point away from themselves". It simply doesn't. And while I've asked before, you can't explain how it makes sense. That takes away substantially from your position.

Just be reasonable, it's easier than you think. Put yourself in their shoes. You just hacked into a mainframe with 100 M CC numbers. Do you leave a text file? If so, what do you write? (in all honesty, if you please)

1. Sony had several days before anyone that they hadn't hired was looking at the data.  Plenty of time to discuss and plant a file.  It is relatively easy to plant one small file and make it look like it was there on a certain date.  It is all just data and can be manipulated.  Again, I'm not saying that they did.  I'm just saying that the opportunity was there and they had a reason to do so.

2. You are overthinking it.  It may not keep the person from being caught at all.  But if I was a cybercriminal trying to steal client information from a company that had recently pissed off a known cyberterrorist group, I might leave something stupidly simple like a document giving credit to that group.  Would it work? who knows? but the document would have taken probably 2 minutes to type and upload.  Since part of any type of terrorism is taking credit for their actions, it doesn't seem like a horrible idea.  Copy "We are Legion", open txt doc, paste "We are Legion", upload.  Done.



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