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ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:

I've said it once though and i'll say it again.  Every point you've made is irrelevent, because they all rely on the fact that something is impossible... when there are plenty of examples of it all existing and happening.

You have a huge misunderstanding of economics that is contradictory with both right-wing economic professors (who would prefer you views be a reality) and what actually occurs in the real world.

You argue for the private market to provide roads, then the best argument you can come up with is heavy government regulation is required to make people upkeep sidewalk.  Even then you don't understand your own sources, such as the above one that specifically says, "New York City law requires property owners to, at their own cost, install, construct, reconstruct, repave and repair the sidewalk adjacent to their properties."  The vast majority of roads and sidewalks are in city property, which grants everyone right of way (you can't just walk into someone's yard). 

Your argument for the private market to provide roads is that in some places its feasible for the government to heavily regulate sidewalks and force people to pay to build and maintain them on property they don't own.  Your logic is hilarious and sad at the same time.

What?  That New York forces people to pay for it's sidewalks wasn't at all an arguement about private roads.

It was in response to your claims that for some reason private companies would have the right to ankle braclet everyone because they own the sidewalks... when you know... we have laws, and most people are responsible for their own sidewalks... and I cant ankle braclet people who walk on my sidewalk.  Further NYC example

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/04/28/exclusive-the-battle-over-the-sidewalk-to-nowhere/

If regular homeowners can afford it... you can be sure big buisness can... with little trouble, since again, sidewalks are going to wear out a LOT less then streets.

 

The "arguments for private roads" were you need.... the fact that private roads do exist... and work fine as shown by street assosiations and toll roads.  Which you've totally kept passing over... because you know you are wrong, yet never want to admit it.


Street Assosiations could exist instead of taxing people, and all evidence shows that it would do things cheaper,  more efficently and safer then the government.  As shown by the cited swedish example way back which I'm guessing you've ignored.

You also could have toll roads... seperate issue.  And yes, they would take care of the sidewalks too.  The "Free Rider" problem not being a problem, since it already exists in the current sysetm since roads and street maintience are mostly paid by user fees in gasoline and car liscenses, as shown in the PDF about how to pay roads.

Your arguements are fundamentally flawed, and i've proven them flawed with sources, which you've not managed to debunk.  The fact that you keep going on with unsourced and unsited opinions is just staggeringly silly.  Espiecally consider your complete ignoring of street assosiations, which have been mentioned in I think... ever single post i've made.

 

Additionally

http://www.eroad.com/singapore-gps-toll-trial/