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osamanobama said:

really? out of fear of being called a troll i will with hold my opinion about that.

but im curious, do any of you xbox fans think that this is a "core" if not do you think kinect can do something more than that, that could make it a core game?

Forza 4, it's a normal game augmented with Kinect and perfectly playable without it. Kinect alone i'm sure could get a few neat games just like the Wii (SMG 1 & 2 and thats it) but the vast, vast majority of Kinect games are going to be shovelware (or simply would just control better on a regular controller), just like the Wii and this is well known ahead of time - the idea of Kinect was appeal to the casuals who bought into the Wii gimmick, be sold at a profit and get loads of exclusives, which it has.